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Hi Guys, Apologise to all and particular to my team mate Black Flag for my absence; unfortunately, work dragged me to another part of the world at short notice! WiFi not an option in the "comfort package". I hope this message finds you all well and enjoying what I believe bizarrely to be a close sea...

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Laura23 wrote:WHO VOTED ROSBERG?????

I did! If it wasn't for his efforts this would have been another procession

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Oh joy another thinly veiled thread attacking Vettel.

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Austria

Rosberg
Hamilton
Vettel

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I don't disagree that the drivers have to do their utmost to get the best performance possible but I don't agree with the view that that the ball's all in their court simply because their colleagues are doing a better job. As I've already said, it's about getting the best possible return for your i...

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You're going round with your eyes closed then. He has a lot of raving fanboys (undecided whether I'm one of those yet :D ) but he also receives a level of scrutiny on here that borders on the insane and that very few other drivers have suffered. Hmmm..... P4E, my friend... Do you remember a driver ...

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I guess, a big thing was made of Hamilton crowding Rosberg off the track earlier in the season but not a murmur about the first corner in Canada. Actually I think many neutrals would agree that the turn 1 incident was crowding by Rosberg; however, Charlie has consistently said that he will almost i...

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lamo wrote:So when would you want Nico to get a penalty?

0.5 seconds? No
1 second?
2?
3?

When does it become a penalty if ever?

When the stewards (who have ALL of the data) say it is?

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Where does it say that a driver can leave the track without penalty if it is not intentional. Even more. Rosberg made a mistake under pressure by LH. The statement that the stewards didn't want to look like they change the outcome of the race is very hypocritical, they DID change the outcome by not...

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Not this early and not at all if the constructors championship is not at risk.

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Massa positioned for an overtake on a car he knew was struggling for brakes thus would have to brake early; Perez moved left in the braking zone. Stewards found Perez at fault, can't see much room for debate!

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Where does it say that a driver can leave the track without penalty if it is not intentional. Even more. Rosberg made a mistake under pressure by LH. The statement that the stewards didn't want to look like they change the outcome of the race is very hypocritical, they DID change the outcome by not...

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Facts... Hamilton was not close enough to challenge for position. For the duration of this incident Rosberg was in front at all times, never did any part of Hamilton's car come alongside. Rosberg screwed up, we all saw the right front locked up, and his car overshooting the corner. Once Rosberg bro...

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Nico should have yielded the time down the straight it would have let lewis catch up a bit because he didnt do this he should have got a penalty. Also run off areas like this should have some sort of speed bump in the middle for them to either go around or go over slowly, theres no penalty for goin...

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VDV23 wrote:Massa is hopeless, seriously. How on Earth he has any reputation at this point is beyond me.

He'll say of course that, as usual, is not his fault. I predict a solid (at least 5-place) grid penalty for Austria, though.

We'll you got that half right! It's a 5 place grid penalty

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The closeness of the poll suggests this one is open to interpretation; unfortunately we don't have the telemetry data of the stewards, thus we have to accept their decision.

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The stewards got it about right. Rosberg did not gain a place advantage; however he did gain a slight time advantage, given this, a warning was required. It is a similar system in BTCC, first time you exceed limits a warning is issued after that you can be disqualified.

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Tbh it came across as a petulant response to perceived injustice; I thought he had overcome his childish streak but it appears he still needs to grow up given his post race behaviour.

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Canada

Rosberg
Hamilton
Vettel

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Gumption wrote:Has a team through 6 races ever led every single GP lap like Mercedes has this year?

Nope! Even Nissany would win in that car

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I think when you say some, you mean to those not tainted by bias my old friend ;) Or those that understand the track was greening the majority of fastest runs are always second time round and that Hamilton was up more than enough on the first sector compared to his previous lap that he was net pole...

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Even if Nico Rosberg's mistake was unintentional, shouldn't he have had his fastest time eliminated or dropped grid positions? When someone has a mistake in the race, whether intentional or not, they are penalized because another driver has been affected. In Nico's case ALL the drivers were effecte...

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Does anyone believe Rosberg is the better driver or are you just playing tit for tat to be annoying? In 2014, we are yet to witness Rosberg beat Hamilton on track without undue advantage and the element of luck! That is a truth that cannot be disputed. If you are a Hamilton fan yes. But Rosberg had...

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:lol: has this ever happened in F1? Shocking statistic - i guess thats what the 25 points system is about. A DNF is a complete disaster. I think its more to do with the rarity of two equal teammates and no other teams being able to challenge. Rather than the 25 points system. Although the 50 pointe...

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This is wishful thinking as far as Kimi vs Alonso goes-- and the way Ricciardo has perfomed makes me doubt Vettel. What, missed start today? :uhoh: Had Vettel car was all right, he would have been on podium today, maybe even 2nd since his start was far better than Ricciardo's and he would have caug...

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dogboy wrote:Nico Rosberg? why ? he cannot be faster than hamilton so he have to cheat in Qualy...

I must have missed the cheating? All I saw was an investigation that found him innocent

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Seanie wrote:
Zoue wrote:have to be honest here. Looking at Sky interview with Lewis and he's coming across as a complete tool.
Yeah, Im not impressed with his attitude.

I hear he has approached by a new sponsor......Kleenex

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Rosberg - flawless race honourable mentions to Ricciardo, Sutil and Bianchi.

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Vettel has lost his momentum from the previous seasons, Ricciardo has been out qualifying him far more often than he would have liked. I think Ricciardo will have the better of him this season. Yes, but it would be a different story with identical machinery. Now now, isn't it obvious a real champio...

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Sigh, you gotta feel for Vettel. [...] Aww, poor Vettel, he's only had 4 straight years the best car and won the WDC 4 straight years... really feel for him Not bitter then :lol: Not at all, but feeling sorry for a 26 y/o rich guy who has 4 wdc, and that eventually is having some bad luck is... :lo...

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nixxxon wrote:
Irbis wrote:Sigh, you gotta feel for Vettel.
[...]
Aww, poor Vettel, he's only had 4 straight years the best car and won the WDC 4 straight years... really feel for him

Not bitter then

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Good drive from Rosberg today solid from the lights and managed the car well. Unlucky for Sutil some good overtakes, but that hill caught him napping like many before. Well done to Marussia for their 1st point!

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Prema wrote:
Robbo-92 wrote:Still have no idea how Lewis got anything in his eye
He got Nico in his eye.

Unlikely! Nico was too far ahead to sabotage Hamilton

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Yeah Dan seemed pretty disappointed saying he could have been lot closer,pity, still Vettels in the rear vision mirror, again. Beating Vettel for Dan has lost its novelty. He wants to beat the Mercs. Another crack in the ice for Vettel's ATG status. But I'm sure there's an excuse coming- valid or n...

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infi24r wrote:How do you find someone 'innocent'.

They are found not guilty when there is no evidence to convict. But Rosberg could still be guilty as hell.

They looked at all the evidence including telemetry and decided he had made an honest mistake, thus he is innocent of any offence.

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Ah well Nico in the clear, time to look forward to the race.

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No i'm saying you cause a yellow you lose your fastest lap, they use a similar system in Indycars, there is clearly a flaw in the present system I understand what you're saying, but the flaw in that is where you say "cause a yellow" There are so many different ways to interpret that, that it will m...

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The question that I feel needs asking us why nico did not shut the engine off To be honest, the yellows were not going anywhere either way. That escape road is at the end of straight after breaking zone. So had Rosberg just parked the car in there and shut off the engine, the yellows would have con...

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wire2004 wrote:The question that I feel needs asking us why nico did not shut the engine off

Why? he can reverse and get the car back to the pits under its own steam?

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We need a few more threads about this lol

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