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by Beleriand_K
Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:38 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Beleriand's Statistical Corner
Replies: 61
Views: 4837

Re: Beleriand's Statistical Corner

Interesting comment from my wife on Gasly/Red Bull/Alpha Tauri "maybe it's the managers that need swapping not the drivers". Ouch! That's an interesting comment, and when you think about it, maybe closer to the truth than Christian Horner likes. His succes during the four WDC in a row came because ...
by Beleriand_K
Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:54 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Beleriand's Statistical Corner
Replies: 61
Views: 4837

Re: Beleriand's Statistical Corner

The first eight races has turned the table upside down for some drivers. Compared to how the drivers finished 2019 on my ranking Gasly has soared, while Vettel is free falling. Max Verstappen is still at the top, while Leclerc has been passed by Hamilton. Driver Gained/Lost positions compared to 201...
by Beleriand_K
Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:05 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Williams
Replies: 72
Views: 8411

Re: Williams

I can't see it already mentioned anywhere in the thread, but Dorilton are managing the fund for "someone" called BCE limited. https://www.motorsportweek.com/2020/08/21/williams-sale-what-has-happened-and-what-now/ BCE - Bernard Charles Ecclestone? My moneys on either A. Bradley Cooper Enterprises B...
by Beleriand_K
Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:58 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Williams
Replies: 72
Views: 8411

Re: Williams

For now, they have no reason to change the name (though Dorilton Capital Racing would be a great name, and in accordance with the world of today), but I would be very surprised if it's still called Williams in a next future, whatever they say or sign right now. I think they will keep the name. Simp...
by Beleriand_K
Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:19 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: PF1 Forum teammate wars vote: Spain 2020
Replies: 26
Views: 1554

Re: PF1 Forum teammate wars vote: Spain 2020

If Racing Point is working behind the scene to make Stroll look better, it wouldn't be the first time a team has moved into a shady area. Or at least been accused of it. In 2015 Sauber sold the same seat twice, which almost resulted in an impoundment of the teams equipment, https://www.independent.c...
by Beleriand_K
Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:04 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Beleriand's Statistical Corner
Replies: 61
Views: 4837

Re: Beleriand's Statistical Corner

Does Alex Albon keep his hot seat to the end of the season? Alex Albon replaced Pierre Gasly in Red Bull after a number of disappointing races for Gasly. Christian Horner said they had done everything they could to help Gasly, but it was simply not acceptable to be lapped by your team mate. Now his...
by Beleriand_K
Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:55 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Beleriand's Statistical Corner
Replies: 61
Views: 4837

Re: Beleriand's Statistical Corner

Max Verstappen still the Topgun efter five races. Räikkonen biggest looser, closely followed by both Haas-drivers After the first five races of 2020 the Top 3 based on the last 20 races is still the same as by the end of 2019. The difference between the three top drivers is marginal, but the same c...
by Beleriand_K
Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:09 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Beleriand's Statistical Corner
Replies: 61
Views: 4837

Re: Beleriand's Statistical Corner

Because this stuff interests me... I think, it's great that you're interested in this. Among Formula 1 fans, there isn't that many believing that numbers can tell an interesting story. Letting a win count more than second, third and so on is very straight forward, and not very innovative. What I li...
by Beleriand_K
Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:35 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Beleriand's Statistical Corner
Replies: 61
Views: 4837

Re: Beleriand's Statistical Corner

Because this stuff interests me, I've been trying to replicate your results. Using your formula, I get 1529 for Vettel* - so I must be missing something, but anything I can think of doing (like excluding a retirement/DNS), would only increase that score. *using wikipedia's season summary of his yea...
by Beleriand_K
Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:33 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Beleriand's Statistical Corner
Replies: 61
Views: 4837

Re: Beleriand's Statistical Corner

The score is the result of this Excel-formula: =(H3+I3/2+J3/4+K3/8+L3/16+M3/32)/N3*(1-1/LOG(N3))*10000-ROW(A3)/10000 H is total wins, I is total seconds and so on. This formula has already been discussed intensely here on PlanetF1 a few years ago, so the answer to all questions can be found by sear...
by Beleriand_K
Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:06 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Beleriand's Statistical Corner
Replies: 61
Views: 4837

Re: Beleriand's Statistical Corner

What are the numbers? It's a calculated score based on achieved results. How is it calculated, though? The score is the result of this Excel-formula: =(H3+I3/2+J3/4+K3/8+L3/16+M3/32)/N3*(1-1/LOG(N3))*10000-ROW(A3)/10000 H is total wins, I is total seconds and so on. This formula has already been di...
by Beleriand_K
Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:01 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Beleriand's Statistical Corner
Replies: 61
Views: 4837

Re: Beleriand's Statistical Corner

Asphalt_World wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:14 pm
What are the numbers?
It's a calculated score based on achieved results.
by Beleriand_K
Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:13 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Beleriand's Statistical Corner
Replies: 61
Views: 4837

Re: Beleriand's Statistical Corner

Sebastian Vettels dream of replicating the Ferrari-performance of his childhood hero Michael Schumacher didn't come through. After more or less being fired by Ferrari, Sebastian Vettels last season with the team is turning into a farce. He will probably consider his time with Ferrari a failure, as h...
by Beleriand_K
Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:09 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Second Red Bull seat
Replies: 36
Views: 4394

Re: Second Red Bull seat

How about poaching Kevin Magnussen from Haas? His cowboy-attitude would fit very well with Red Bull, and he's a fast driver, who can win races in the right car. He's not good enough to be a threat to Verstappen, but there is no way he would be lapped by him either. As driver #2 he would collect a s...
by Beleriand_K
Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:39 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Second Red Bull seat
Replies: 36
Views: 4394

Re: Second Red Bull seat

How about poaching Kevin Magnussen from Haas? His cowboy-attitude would fit very well with Red Bull, and he's a fast driver, who can win races in the right car. He's not good enough to be a threat to Verstappen, but there is no way he would be lapped by him either. As driver #2 he would collect a se...
by Beleriand_K
Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:02 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Beleriand's Statistical Corner
Replies: 61
Views: 4837

Re: Beleriand's Statistical Corner

I admit have been quite critical of the level of praise for Sainz recently as I think he is decent, but not amazing. I think Norris matching him so far is proving that. But 2017 was not a good season for him. Possibly his worst. He crashed out 3 times and retired and on two of those occasions, coll...
by Beleriand_K
Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:01 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Beleriand's Statistical Corner
Replies: 61
Views: 4837

Re: Beleriand's Statistical Corner

The following table shows the highest season ending score during the past three seasons for all drivers completing at least 1/3 of the races in the given season. It is no surprise that Lewis Hamilton tops the table, while Carlos Sainz, Jr.'s high score in 2017 surprised me e bit. But he did have an ...
by Beleriand_K
Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:58 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Beleriand's Statistical Corner
Replies: 61
Views: 4837

Re: Beleriand's Statistical Corner

The gap between Kvyat and Gasly is quite interesting - is that influenced by Gasly's stint at Red Bull for the first 12 races of 2019? Yes, I calculate from the last 20 races, so a part of Gasly's Red Bull-period is included in his current ranking. But if we look back to 2018 he didn't impress eith...
by Beleriand_K
Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:10 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Beleriand's Statistical Corner
Replies: 61
Views: 4837

Re: Beleriand's Statistical Corner

Three races has been completed, and it is time for an update on the Drivers Rating: Top 20% Lewis Hamilton 62,4 Charles Leclerc 61,6 Max Verstappen 58,8 Valtteri Bottas 56,3 Inside Top 10 Sergio Perez 55,1 Kimi Raikkönen 52,9 Daniel Ricciardo 51,9 Carlos Sainz Jr. 51,1 Sebastian Vettel 50,8 Lando No...
by Beleriand_K
Fri May 22, 2020 4:12 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Beleriand's Statistical Corner
Replies: 61
Views: 4837

Re: Beleriand's Statistical Corner

Herb & Alienturnedhuman I'll try to explain the formulae. Which isn't really a formula, but a number of formulaes. In every race it takes every driver a certain time to complete the race. From that time and the number of laps I calculate the average time per lap for every driver and for every team. ...
by Beleriand_K
Fri May 22, 2020 12:38 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Beleriand's Statistical Corner
Replies: 61
Views: 4837

Re: Beleriand's Statistical Corner

I think that there is definitely some use in this thread, but rather than an exercise to try and prove some ranking of the drivers, it should be to discuss the merits of using such a system to rank the drivers. There are several underlying flaws here in the system, and that is highlighted by the fa...
by Beleriand_K
Fri May 22, 2020 10:07 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Beleriand's Statistical Corner
Replies: 61
Views: 4837

Re: Beleriand's Statistical Corner

Once a driver is in the lead, there is no point in pushing the car more than necessary. They also need to make the car parts last as long as possible, so it is well known that drivers will sometimes take their foot off the gas - leading to a slower average lap time. This may not be possible for the...
by Beleriand_K
Fri May 22, 2020 7:51 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Beleriand's Statistical Corner
Replies: 61
Views: 4837

Re: Beleriand's Statistical Corner

With the top 5 drivers all coming from the top 3 teams are you confident you have the balance between car and driver correct? It looks to me, with that and George Russell's low placing that you are not correcting for the car enough? When assessing the value of the car are giving it a score per race...
by Beleriand_K
Fri May 22, 2020 6:16 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Beleriand's Statistical Corner
Replies: 61
Views: 4837

Re: Beleriand's Statistical Corner

I'm suspicious of some of the findings which appear counterintuitive to common sense and judgment that can be made through simple observation, but I am very intrigued by your project and would love to hear more about it. I understand the way you feel about it, and I felt pretty much the same way, w...
by Beleriand_K
Thu May 21, 2020 4:00 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Beleriand's Statistical Corner
Replies: 61
Views: 4837

Beleriand's Statistical Corner

The official Formula 1 drivers standing is to a very high degree decided by the machinery, not the driver. According to Nico Rosberg earlier this year, the car accounts for approximately 80% of the result and the driver for only 20%. Even though the best drivers are usually hired by the best teams, ...