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by Fiki
Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:17 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

This was even more extreme/visible in the sprint. Verstappen was defending from Sainz in the first 4 laps or so, then suddenly he got up to speed and by the last few laps he was 1.5 seconds quicker than everyone. It’s clear that the RB20 is deliberately set-up to be as light on the tyres as possibl...
by Fiki
Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:00 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Happy to have gotten pretty close there :) I was much too young to have understand his maestria, but I would love to have seen him and Fangio (and Stewart, and Ickx and pre-accident Lauda, and ... and ... ) in action myself. Well, wouldn't we all? I missed most of the 70s and all of the eras before...
by Fiki
Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:46 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

That would have been Jim Clark, correct? He was my childhood hero, but I don't really have a favourite driver. Happy to have gotten pretty close there :) I was much too young to have understand his maestria, but I would love to have seen him and Fangio (and Stewart, and Ickx and pre-accident Lauda,...
by Fiki
Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:28 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 378
Views: 10937

Re: 2024 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread

Where did I write anything about pit lane and access roads? These are not part of the circuit. In my of my previous posts I made an explicit exception to pit entry and to pit exit and of course access roads are not part of the race track. The fact that circuit racing needs to be policed on the natu...
by Fiki
Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:47 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Sprint qualy china, the moment rain fell down, Max fell to 4th. He is not the 2nd coming of jesus. Good explanation for that. Look how gentle Red Bull is on it's tyres. Although obviously he isn't literally the second coming of Christ.... As far as I know. This was even more extreme/visible in the ...
by Fiki
Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:44 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Good explanation for that. Look how gentle Red Bull is on it's tyres. Although obviously he isn't literally the second coming of Christ.... As far as I know. I think he's confused between Jesus and Ben Hur. Obviously you are attacking me personally, because I said something about your favourite dri...
by Fiki
Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:41 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Obviously you are attacking me personally, because I said something about your favourite driver you didnt like. Grow up. I should have added a smiley, my apologies. And don't worry, you haven't even come close to mentioning my favourite driver. :D That would have been Jim Clark, correct? He was my ...
by Fiki
Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:34 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 378
Views: 10937

Re: 2024 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread

If it was faster to drive across the gras or the gravel you would be right. Clearly that is never going to work. Artificial marking a perfectly good piece of tarmac unavailable for racing is what policing track limits effectively does. Which is completely unnecessary of course, let the drivers driv...
by Fiki
Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:30 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Good explanation for that. Look how gentle Red Bull is on it's tyres. Although obviously he isn't literally the second coming of Christ.... As far as I know. I think he's confused between Jesus and Ben Hur. Obviously you are attacking me personally, because I said something about your favourite dri...
by Fiki
Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:59 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Obviously you are attacking me personally, because I said something about your favourite driver you didnt like. Grow up. I should have added a smiley, my apologies. And don't worry, you haven't even come close to mentioning my favourite driver. :D Shouldnt have went personal dude apologize for that...
by Fiki
Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:52 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 378
Views: 10937

Re: 2024 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread

That is exactly the point. Finding the fastest way around a circuit is what drivers are supposed to do. Instead of designing a circuit that allows that, Formula One continues to add circuits that need to be artificially altered to demarcate "the racing line." You couldn't make it up. You mix up cro...
by Fiki
Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:39 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Good explanation for that. Look how gentle Red Bull is on it's tyres. Although obviously he isn't literally the second coming of Christ.... As far as I know. I think he's confused between Jesus and Ben Hur. Obviously you are attacking me personally, because I said something about your favourite dri...
by Fiki
Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:32 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Good explanation for that. Look how gentle Red Bull is on it's tyres. Although obviously he isn't literally the second coming of Christ.... As far as I know. I think he's confused between Jesus and Ben Hur. Obviously you are attacking me personally, because I said something about your favourite dri...
by Fiki
Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:58 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Driving is one part of greatness but a very important part. I don’t see anything Lewis does better than Max at actually driving the car. I don’t think he’s as quick, or as relentless, or as consistent. Sprint qualy china, the moment rain fell down, Max fell to 4th. He is not the 2nd coming of jesus...
by Fiki
Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:10 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Driving is one part of greatness but a very important part. I don’t see anything Lewis does better than Max at actually driving the car. I don’t think he’s as quick, or as relentless, or as consistent. Sprint qualy china, the moment rain fell down, Max fell to 4th. He is not the 2nd coming of jesus...
by Fiki
Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:42 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2025
Replies: 792
Views: 29896

Re: Silly Season 2025

UnlikeUday wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:29 am
Is anyone expecting Vettel to return to F1 with Mercedes?
I'm not, in fact I would be mightily surprised if he were to take the job, even though he said he is considering it. Mercedes don't need him, though there is the one saving grace of having a German driver in a supposedly German team again.
by Fiki
Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:34 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the day - 2024 Chinese Grand Prix
Replies: 16
Views: 1184

Re: Driver(s) of the day - 2024 Chinese Grand Prix

Alonso, Norris, and Ricciardo.
by Fiki
Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:26 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Chinese Grand Prix FP & Qualy/Sprint Thread
Replies: 141
Views: 4534

Re: 2024 Chinese Grand Prix FP & Qualy/Sprint Thread

My point being is that Sainz will not have had the time to progress further if the clock had kept going. I did try to make that point. You did but I don't think it's either accurate or relevant. There was still nearly 7 minutes on the clock. Even with the minute or so it took him to get going there...
by Fiki
Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:24 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2024 Chinese Grand Prix FP & Qualy/Sprint Thread
Replies: 141
Views: 4534

Re: 2024 Chinese Grand Prix FP & Qualy/Sprint Thread

FredFlintstone wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:43 am
Sorry. I'm not usually this grumpy. I didn't sleep well last night.
... visions of Dino locking you out of the house at night ... (I know, I'm showing my age! :D )
by Fiki
Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:34 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread
Replies: 1531
Views: 169404

Re: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread

Does Hamilton know something we don't? https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/adrian-newey-spotted-on-ferrari-land-amid-fresh-red-bull-exit-offer-rumours/ar-BB1lIAmb?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=f1b2ff3816e94581a47a3117e56be03f&ei=67 Please God make it true If Newey really hates nothing more than inte...
by Fiki
Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:25 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread
Replies: 1531
Views: 169404

Re: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread

Does Hamilton know something we don't? https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/adrian-newey-spotted-on-ferrari-land-amid-fresh-red-bull-exit-offer-rumours/ar-BB1lIAmb?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=f1b2ff3816e94581a47a3117e56be03f&ei=67 Newey had gone to some car exhibition or race. When he was spotted, ...
by Fiki
Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:30 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread
Replies: 1531
Views: 169404

Re: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread

Does Hamilton know something we don't? https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/adrian-newey-spotted-on-ferrari-land-amid-fresh-red-bull-exit-offer-rumours/ar-BB1lIAmb?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=f1b2ff3816e94581a47a3117e56be03f&ei=67 Please God make it true If Newey really hates nothing more than inte...
by Fiki
Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:31 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Hamilton put the car on pole 7 times and Kovaleinen once out of 18 races. That is the same as the Ferrari drivers combined total of 8 poles. Still you maintain that the car was nowhere. Just at face value that tells you the Ferrari was quicker because of the drivers involved plus you mentioned race...
by Fiki
Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:29 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Hamilton put the car on pole 7 times and Kovaleinen once out of 18 races. That is the same as the Ferrari drivers combined total of 8 poles. Still you maintain that the car was nowhere. Just at face value that tells you the Ferrari was quicker because of the drivers involved plus you mentioned race...
by Fiki
Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:25 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

What if Massa had won the title in 2008, perhaps you mean 2009, from my recollection Alonso joining Ferrari wasn't public knowledge until after Massa's accident, I'm not sure if it was even mentioned. No, the press conference at Monaco 2008 was when Kimi knew he was on his way out. How difficult it...
by Fiki
Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:48 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

He was already out qualifying Massa before he knew his fate, I daresay if Massa had not got injured it would have been Massa that got let go, that would have been far cheaper for Ferrari. No, from memory, Montezemolo said as early as Monaco 2008 that if Alonso came to Ferrari, they couldn't have a ...
by Fiki
Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:46 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

That Massa used to be quick over one lap does not mean very much. See the discussion around Leclerc why that is a whole lot less important than you make it out to be. Also, weren't the 2008 regulations that qualifying was with fuel loads for the first stint? You are arguing about races that you ope...
by Fiki
Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:11 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Which is how the performance of the two drivers ebbed and flowed during their relationship, the development of the car stopped mid season yet Kimi won a race after that, it hardly spoke of a driver not trying. What better way to show the team they were getting rid of a world champion? He was alread...
by Fiki
Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:04 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Kovalainen was good enough to beat Fisichella and Trulli as teammates, Kimi and Massa would both later take a hammering from Alonso, Kimi a further hammering from Vettel, Massa got beat by Bottas, all this we know now yet we're still back in 2007/2008 believing that Kimi and Massa were both driving...
by Fiki
Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:01 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Which is how the performance of the two drivers ebbed and flowed during their relationship, the development of the car stopped mid season yet Kimi won a race after that, it hardly spoke of a driver not trying. What better way to show the team they were getting rid of a world champion? He was alread...
by Fiki
Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:59 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: This Is Getting Ridiculous. Felipe Massa is Looking At Legal Options Over 2008 F1 Title Outcome.
Replies: 571
Views: 33666

Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous. Felipe Massa is Looking At Legal Options Over 2008 F1 Title Outcome.

I think it is this "we know what we know and we don't know what we don't know and we know what we don't know we don't know, but know what is known and unknown which we know! Or something like that! :] I wish I knew a bit more about what I believe I know at this point. Which is: it seems Massa's act...
by Fiki
Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:31 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

He was out qualifying Massa before his accident. True, but Massa often achieved better finishing positions. My impression at the time was that the car's potential limited both drivers, but Räikkönen more so, before team attention switched to the driver who was leaving the team. Which is how the per...
by Fiki
Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:29 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: This Is Getting Ridiculous. Felipe Massa is Looking At Legal Options Over 2008 F1 Title Outcome.
Replies: 571
Views: 33666

Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous. Felipe Massa is Looking At Legal Options Over 2008 F1 Title Outcome.

Apart from what we don't know. Do please explain. I think it is this "we know what we know and we don't know what we don't know and we know what we don't know we don't know, but know what is known and unknown which we know! Or something like that! :] I wish I knew a bit more about what I believe I ...
by Fiki
Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:19 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: This Is Getting Ridiculous. Felipe Massa is Looking At Legal Options Over 2008 F1 Title Outcome.
Replies: 571
Views: 33666

Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous. Felipe Massa is Looking At Legal Options Over 2008 F1 Title Outcome.

Apart from what we don't know. Do please explain. I think it is this "we know what we know and we don't know what we don't know and we know what we don't know we don't know, but know what is known and unknown which we know! Or something like that! :] I wish I knew a bit more about what I believe I ...
by Fiki
Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:14 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: This Is Getting Ridiculous. Felipe Massa is Looking At Legal Options Over 2008 F1 Title Outcome.
Replies: 571
Views: 33666

Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous. Felipe Massa is Looking At Legal Options Over 2008 F1 Title Outcome.

Do please explain. I think it is this "we know what we know and we don't know what we don't know and we know what we don't know we don't know, but know what is known and unknown which we know! Or something like that! :] I wish I knew a bit more about what I believe I know at this point. Which is: i...
by Fiki
Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:09 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

I'm not sure how we've got here but I'd certainly say that being the last WDC for McLaren in an inferior car (which it unquestionably was) adds to Hamilton's legacy. Did the Ferrari really turn out to be that much better than the McLaren, or did Heikki Kovalainen fail to bring sufficient points in ...
by Fiki
Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:14 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

I'm not sure how we've got here but I'd certainly say that being the last WDC for McLaren in an inferior car (which it unquestionably was) adds to Hamilton's legacy. Did the Ferrari really turn out to be that much better than the McLaren, or did Heikki Kovalainen fail to bring sufficient points in ...
by Fiki
Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:47 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

As you've already been told Kimi started the 2008 season strongly but then ran into bad luck and ended up having to support Massa, it was a role reversal of the season before, Kimi then had a very strong season in 2009 when the car was much worse, if Kimi took his foot off the gas then why the stro...
by Fiki
Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:18 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

I'm not sure how we've got here but I'd certainly say that being the last WDC for McLaren in an inferior car (which it unquestionably was) adds to Hamilton's legacy. Did the Ferrari really turn out to be that much better than the McLaren, or did Heikki Kovalainen fail to bring sufficient points in ...
by Fiki
Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:04 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 752
Views: 46795

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

I'm not sure how we've got here but I'd certainly say that being the last WDC for McLaren in an inferior car (which it unquestionably was) adds to Hamilton's legacy. Did the Ferrari really turn out to be that much better than the McLaren, or did Heikki Kovalainen fail to bring sufficient points in ...