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sixwheeler

Edit. Just for anyone who is in any doubt about this black lives kneeling protest. Kinda ironic that they are kneeling. When that was the very action that killed George floyd. The very reason this political agenda started. The fact you think the attempt to get racial equality started with the murde...

sixwheeler

Why edit out all smilies from my post when replying to it? Because I think they are way overused. My text editor strips them out. I'm sure it is a coincidence when you keep quoting articles from the same source, same author. There's nothing wrong with it, i just mentioned that it was a little funny...

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Beschy wrote:When people are making very valid points and providing very substantive reasoning for their views it is unfair to imply alternate agendas.

Maybe agenda isn't quite the right word, but there is a strong element of the bandwagon in all those posts.

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Of course you found an article from an author you have quoted several times in other threads. I'm quite certain you didn't search for it, but rather went directly there. Not knocking on you, but it is funny mate, especially when you said it with a poker face about how you searched it. Also, a femal...

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Even if Wolff didn't put her there and wasn't directly involved in the decision, I still think the fact he owns a chunk of the team and the fact she is the missus and is a professional (I guess) driver that you'd probably want to keep him happy. Good for her though. It's still a pretty exclusive cl...

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Even if Wolff didn't put her there and wasn't directly involved in the decision, I still think the fact he owns a chunk of the team and the fact she is the missus and is a professional (I guess) driver that you'd probably want to keep him happy. Good for her though. It's still a pretty exclusive cl...

sixwheeler

To me that is all there is to it. The paranoia of some people beggars belief, what would Ferrari have to benefit from getting Massa out of the race?? Don't be silly. No-one has suggested Ferrari did it deliberately. Monaco was caused by grounding of part of the car under heavy braking, and it's int...

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I haven't seen any good footage of the spin, but the commentators said it looked extremely odd so I was suprised when Massa said it was his fault - saying he locked his wheels and the car went to the right, and correcting this, went to the left. It seems odd, but I doubt Massa is lying to 'protect'...

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At least Massa was honest about it he made a mistake! There's a story going around that it was actually car failure, and Massa has taken the blame because that's what they do at Ferrari rather than let outsiders know there's anything wrong with their engineering. Watching the spin which goes in the...

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Praising pitpass article will be offtopic. You need to consult your dictionary. There is a significant difference between the words "appraise" and "praise". I'm not going to quote liberally from the Pitpass article, because there is the question of IP, but for sure the contents are right ON-topic ....

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The article is interesting but frankly its my opinion that Mercedes have still got away lightly, and im sure they will be thankful that they haven't had a big fine or been told to let key people go. Regardless of whether we believe it is fair or not the one thing we can agree on is it could have be...

sixwheeler

You complain so much about other forumers here... start putting them on your ignore list if it bugs you so much. Of-course, as someone already mentioned, anyone who disagrees with you, you suggest is "agro." With slating other posters like this with one fell swoop... there's little hope for you mat...

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They could but have chosen not to So far. I don't think it has been finally decided whether it's a 3 or 4 day test That's it, why is this thred still alive. Because the tests have not been finalised yet, let alone happened. Its over, finished, no thing to see here So why do you post here then? I do...

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Herewith an extract from it: Mercedes, banned from the test as a result of 'test-gate', has accepted it will not be allowed to run for the originally-scheduled three days. But director Toto Wolff hinted the German team will push to attend, if the test is extended to a fourth day. "Now we're being p...

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Why is it that the posts that don't agree and see the connection to the rule that Mercedes broke are 'aggro' posts? Maybe you can tell the rest of us. I don't understand why people make so much aggro either. We're losing good posters because they are attacked by people who are big fans of a particu...

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I actually decided to leave this forum due to some posters who hacks a thread and then causes it to unravel into a heap of nonsense where it ends up to be a fighting match and a discussion of irrelevant points. But a new article gives absolute justification to the core of this thread, where I am tr...

sixwheeler

What a ride by Rossi, truly amazing. As for Lorenzo what a champion that showed great commitment today and I have a lot of admiration for him right after that ride. Lorenzo is a bit special as a person as well as a rider. Rossi changed his mind about him while he was at Ducati simply by the way he ...

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I reckon the FIA is looking for another fight here 8O It seems like it doesn't it. I'll steal a quote from somewhere else and ask why the FIA/IT penalised Mercedes and Pirelli for doing something that they now require? Notice other anti-Merc things that happen too. It seems like Pirelli and Merc we...

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(i have to say you've been more civil than most others towing Jo's line of thought, and that includes herself). It's never been a matter of towing anyone's line of thought, but reading and understanding and reaching the obvious conclusions. Some people base their comments on what they wish the fact...

sixwheeler

Has anyone heard that Pirelli have been summoned to an FIA sporting committee meeting this coming week?

I wonder if they will now be allowed to change the tyres on safety grounds.

sixwheeler

Did nobody else see the photo of the slashed tyre that newey was holding?? Looks like exactly the problem that Gary Anderson was talking about. Cuts to the edge of the tyre look like they could have very possibly been caused by from the tarmac on the wrong side of the curb and sliding into the shar...

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Nice to see there has been no personal attacks since the mods posted here. Edit: meaning for a few days now after the last one. I see Pirelli is retaining their right to take legal action re the tribunal matter. This is probably being held in abeyance while waiting the outcome of the 2014 tyre supp...

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I note that several posters continue to stress about the IT verdict, and indicate that they cannot understand how the tribunal came to this conclusion. At the same time, in this thread, it was laid out clearly how and why the conclusion is what it is. The tribunal could not come to any other conclu...

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garagetinkerer wrote:Why do you think i was creating conflict?

Because you made a claim about the 2013 car, which two sources plus myself pointed out was the only one available. But then you just carried on the same.

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Of course you saw it, it was reposted by the "female poster" well after I thought better of it and had edited my post and reposted. I was sorry to have posted it briefly and in short order changed it. Quite frankly, as far as "disrepectful" posts go, that one was relatively mild at worst. It was a ...

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You can't actually debate properly, so you call someone else's observation as nonsense, accuse them of bias and lack of common sense... epic! <snip> About a week ago i mentioned in this very thread that Mercedes may walk free, but not because they didn't stand in breach of regulations enforced by I...

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Unfortunately FIA disagrees with you and allows the use of older car for tyre tests. Which is the reason why Ferrari were cleared, and Mercedes referred to IT. Ferrari weren't cleared, they were not referred to the IT that's all. The proceedings on Thursday seem to indicate that Ferrari actually ma...

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You can't actually debate properly, so you call someone else's observation as nonsense, accuse them of bias and lack of common sense... epic! <snip> About a week ago i mentioned in this very thread that Mercedes may walk free, but not because they didn't stand in breach of regulations enforced by I...

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Pirelli had a contract where they could test current cars, but if you had only taken a few seconds to read their testimony, you'd know that they didn't ask for the current car, nor drivers, but Mercedes proposed it. Mercedes was pretty knee deep in poop. Which is why a lot of sites are rather baffl...

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Here is the complete analysis, which is very much worth reading. http://www.pitpass.com/49310-Analysing-the-findings-of-the-International-Tribunal It's very well written. I found the report into the proceedings quite hard going, and there are some quite surprising gaffs contained within. For exampl...

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Prema wrote: I am just looking for some logic in it.

Legal logic!!!

Here is the complete analysis, which is very much worth reading.

http://www.pitpass.com/49310-Analysing- ... l-Tribunal

sixwheeler

Why am i not surprised that you missed it... :P http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/108181 Both Mercedes and Pirelli, accordingly, did act in breach of articles 1 and 151 ISC Yes, it is a long read and not really properly proof read before release. What I would really like to know is what t...

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Horner to me is the biggest idiot out of all of this Prancing round like he owns the sport There's a bit of that. But in his defence he was outraged at the news that Mercedes had been involved in testing. The problem is that he was impetuous in the way he handled it. And he caused Pirelli a whole l...

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flyboy10 wrote:So, what about Pirelli's reprimand? I though they weren't governed by the FIA?

Seems like that's a grey area, and it's noticeable that Pirelli have so far not commented.

sixwheeler

last thing Pirelli wants is Vettel disappearing into the distance. It's clear their intent is to level the playing field and make the sport exciting. I can't quite see how you work that out. Pirelli aren't interested in how any individual driver performs. All they want is a good image, a high profi...

sixwheeler

dizlexik wrote:Emphasis is mine.

You have mis-represented that.

Your quote is from the sanctions section, mine was from the findings.

Is "findings" closer to verdict or sanctions?

sixwheeler

For those defending Merc how about this. Do you feel it is a slap on the wrist, yes or no? Do you feel the FIA would have given the same punishment to RBR, Ferrari and McLaren? Personally I feel it is a slap on the wrist, yes I do think the same punishment would be given to RBR and Ferrari but not ...

sixwheeler

Okay my post took the positive nature of the punishment meaning they were innocent. but even in the statement you quoted its still equates to you are guilty by the incompetence of the fia so here's a wrist slap to save face and the ban you suggested as a cherry on the cake. Spin it whatever way you...

sixwheeler

maybe he's only positioning himself as the one trustworthy guy that is left... merc might need one... If that's the case he's got a strange way of showing it. By behaving like a loose cannon he's demonstrating that he's the one that can't be trusted by his colleagues. So, the opposite of what you'r...

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