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by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:02 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 - 2019 just an illusion after all?
Replies: 51
Views: 4413

Re: 2017 - 2019 just an illusion after all?

So it’s either a close title fight or domination? Nothing exists between those two and if it’s won with more than 2 races to go it has it have been dominated? Even in 22 race seasons. 2017 and 2018 were very interesting for the fans. It was a title fight for the first 70-75% of the year unless you ...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:02 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

Greenman wrote:.

That is no excuse, let alone a reason. They were both penalties, or both not penalties.

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The stewards are irrational and inconsistent in F1. I wonder if this will ever change?
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:32 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: F1, Racism & BlackLivesMatter
Replies: 437
Views: 20918

Re: F1, Racism & BlackLivesMatter

So Leclerc and Verstappen both stating on twitter they won't take the knee. I wonder which drivers would. Have to say I can't see why there should be resistance to this, neither are stating the political stance of BLM as a reason. I have my own view on this, its not particularly sympathetic to thes...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:23 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 - 2019 just an illusion after all?
Replies: 51
Views: 4413

Re: 2017 - 2019 just an illusion after all?

Your list refers to WDC no? So Benetton won 1994 and in dominant fashion too. So which season do you think Ferrari were closest to winning the title? You state in 2017 Mercedes dominated winning with 3-4 races to go (it was 2 races by the way). 2017 was very similar to 2000 in that it was close all...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:46 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

Get the feeling maybe the SC didnt help Hamilton. No sh*t Sherlock, he was 2nd before the SC and ended up finishing 4th because of the SC lottery. I was talking about the 1st SC and the battle with Bottas you idiot, that wasnt what caused Hamilton to finish 4th. The first SC led to the second SC no...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:41 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: F1, Racism & BlackLivesMatter
Replies: 437
Views: 20918

Re: F1, Racism & BlackLivesMatter

Weren't Bernie's comments free speach like Hamilton's? Both are alluding to unproven racism occuring right? Either both are ok to do it or both are not ok to do it. I don't like the way that Bernie's in trouble and Hamilton (among others) are not. Don't confuse free speech with the ability to say a...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:38 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: F1, Racism & BlackLivesMatter
Replies: 437
Views: 20918

Re: F1, Racism & BlackLivesMatter

Just read a handful of comments praising those that didn't kneel saying they've stood up against communism or Marxism or for Israel.... I really don't understand how wanting to end racism comes with so much made up bull**** that people want to reduce it to something its not..... It shows that more ...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:37 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: F1, Racism & BlackLivesMatter
Replies: 437
Views: 20918

Re: F1, Racism & BlackLivesMatter

Why would Hamilton's comments bring him trouble? He's calling out racism, how is that bad? Calling out racism with no specifics. If he has proof, he should present it and get those particular racists in hot water. It's not right to acuse people in a blanket way of being burglers or child molesters....
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:33 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

Get the feeling maybe the SC didnt help Hamilton. No sh*t Sherlock, he was 2nd before the SC and ended up finishing 4th because of the SC lottery. I was talking about the 1st SC and the battle with Bottas you idiot, that wasnt what caused Hamilton to finish 4th. The first SC led to the second SC no...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

F1_Ernie wrote:Get the feeling maybe the SC didnt help Hamilton.
No sh*t Sherlock, he was 2nd before the SC and ended up finishing 4th because of the SC lottery.
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:17 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 - 2019 just an illusion after all?
Replies: 51
Views: 4413

Re: 2017 - 2019 just an illusion after all?

Benetton won in 1994 with potentially an illegal car, Ferrari challenged in 2017/18 with potentially illegal car? What’s the difference? You discount one but not the other. In that case then, Ferrari had there best season in 2015. Hamilton won the WDC from Vettel that year (not Rosberg) in USA with...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:59 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 - 2019 just an illusion after all?
Replies: 51
Views: 4413

Re: 2017 - 2019 just an illusion after all?

That’s re-writing 2017 and 2018, Vettel and Ferrari could have taken the title both years if they had made less driver errors and had better reliability. It’s also ignoring all the other seasons in that list where a questionable car or rule change might have made a title closer or more dominated th...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:54 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 - 2019 just an illusion after all?
Replies: 51
Views: 4413

Re: 2017 - 2019 just an illusion after all?

Completely agree..Mercedes has the longest stretch of unseen domination both in terms of years and races...Lewis has had a car for over a 100 races easily where he has been in prime position to take pole and victory..Never has a driver enjoyed this level of privilege in terms of car performance Exa...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:37 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 - 2019 just an illusion after all?
Replies: 51
Views: 4413

Re: 2017 - 2019 just an illusion after all?

Completely agree..Mercedes has the longest stretch of unseen domination both in terms of years and races...Lewis has had a car for over a 100 races easily where he has been in prime position to take pole and victory..Never has a driver enjoyed this level of privilege in terms of car performance Exa...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:17 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 - 2019 just an illusion after all?
Replies: 51
Views: 4413

Re: 2017 - 2019 just an illusion after all?

Decisions such as banning active suspension for 1994 helped slow Williams down much sooner and allowed them to be challenged by Benetton in 1994 and 1995, and Ferrari in 1997, so the sport should be more proactive in slowing Mercedes down with quicker rule changes that throw a spanner in the works ...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:13 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

Harsh penalty for Hamilton I thought, not Albon's fault but I thought it seemed clear from the onboard that Hamilton understeered wide and couldn't really have done much else. Racing incident IMO. If you understeer wide you took too much speed into the corner no? Any contact is at least one driver'...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:10 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

If you think lewis was at fault watch the first 3 corners at the start to see how Albon defended against Hamilton. Hamilton got squeezed off the track and managed to avoid Albon. Yeah I thought that was awful too. When the Austrian GP ran from 1997 to 2003, all 22 cars could get through turn 1 with...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:07 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

Vettel saying the car is undriveable. He's paid 10x what Leclerc is paid, is more experienced, and Leclerc can pull overtakes and finish 2nd. Does Vettel feel no shame? This is the longest, most thorough dressing down of an unworthy multi-champion that I've seen. Going on since 2014. I'd 100% agree...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:56 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 - 2019 just an illusion after all?
Replies: 51
Views: 4413

Re: 2017 - 2019 just an illusion after all?

That’s re-writing 2017 and 2018, Vettel and Ferrari could have taken the title both years if they had made less driver errors and had better reliability. It’s also ignoring all the other seasons in that list where a questionable car or rule change might have made a title closer or more dominated th...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:48 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

Although when the team's take advantage to put, bringing crews together in tight proximity time & time again it's at odds with the other Covid precautions. A VSC would have been perfectly adequate for every incident. Does anyone know the number of times the VSC and SC have been called out over the ...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:45 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

Well, that was boring, wasn't it... Are you subtly trying to imply this race wasn't boring? I stopped watching after I saw Max retire as I knew that as a pure race there was nothing left to see here. The fact that it seems that some positions have jumbled around late in the race due to an unnecessa...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:42 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

The Albon / Hamilton incident highlighted typical Brundle. He instantly claimed Albon needed to be patient and had wasted a chance, before then realising that Albon had passed. Brundle offers some brilliant insights in to the sport, but I often find him making huge claims before really looking at t...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:41 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

The fact we have this same discussion about the SC impacting the race needlessly shows they need to do something to sort it out Late race SC's provide a reason for fans to keep watching the races until the very end I guess, even if it is contrived action. Yes this is also why I hate DRS also, solve...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:25 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

FormulaFun wrote:The fact we have this same discussion about the SC impacting the race needlessly shows they need to do something to sort it out
Late race SC's provide a reason for fans to keep watching the races until the very end I guess, even if it is contrived action.
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:23 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

For those not happy with the safety cars, I will start banging the drum I've been banging for a good few years now. SLOW ZONES are needed, like they have in the WEC. It would solve the problem so easily. Do slow zones work any differently to yellows or double waved yellows? Yes. Basically, when a c...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

If the safety car is really going to be used every single time a car stops on track (despite them recovering the car before the cars line up proving a VSC would have been fine) we need to find a different solution. We can't continue to allow the races to be corrupted like this. This year I would im...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:17 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

If the safety car is really going to be used every single time a car stops on track (despite them recovering the car before the cars line up proving a VSC would have been fine) we need to find a different solution. We can't continue to allow the races to be corrupted like this. This year I would im...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:17 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

For those not happy with the safety cars, I will start banging the drum I've been banging for a good few years now. SLOW ZONES are needed, like they have in the WEC. It would solve the problem so easily. Do slow zones work any differently to yellows or double waved yellows? Yes. Basically, when a c...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:12 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

Well, that was boring, wasn't it... Are you subtly trying to imply this race wasn't boring? I stopped watching after I saw Max retire as I knew that as a pure race there was nothing left to see here. The fact that it seems that some positions have jumbled around late in the race due to an unnecessa...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:09 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

For those not happy with the safety cars, I will start banging the drum I've been banging for a good few years now. SLOW ZONES are needed, like they have in the WEC. It would solve the problem so easily. Do slow zones work any differently to yellows or double waved yellows? Yes. Basically, when a c...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:07 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

Well, that was boring, wasn't it... Are you subtly trying to imply this race wasn't boring? I stopped watching after I saw Max retire as I knew that as a pure race there was nothing left to see here. The fact that it seems that some positions have jumbled around late in the race due to an unnecessa...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:06 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

Harsh penalty for Hamilton I thought, not Albon's fault but I thought it seemed clear from the onboard that Hamilton understeered wide and couldn't really have done much else. Racing incident IMO. If you understeer wide you took too much speed into the corner no? Any contact is at least one driver'...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:04 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

Well, that was boring, wasn't it... Are you subtly trying to imply this race wasn't boring? I stopped watching after I saw Max retire as I knew that as a pure race there was nothing left to see here. The fact that it seems that some positions have jumbled around late in the race due to an unnecessa...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:49 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

Well, that was boring, wasn't it... Are you subtly trying to imply this race wasn't boring? I stopped watching after I saw Max retire as I knew that as a pure race there was nothing left to see here. The fact that it seems that some positions have jumbled around late in the race due to an unnecessa...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:47 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

So the safety car has manipulated the outcome of yet another race?
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:23 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

FormulaFun wrote:Seriously what happened to VSC?
SC's help to spice up the show more, that's what happened to the VSC. ;)

The VSC neutralises the race too much.
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:21 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

F**king safety car every time a car pulls off. Complete overreaction to Bianchi’s accident I think. I don't even think this happened for a few years after Bianchi's death did it? I mean his accident happened in 2014 and I seem to recall safety car's coming into play too much over the last two or th...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:10 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

Magnussen's car cleared before they have lined up behind the safety car proving once again that it wasn't needed. It just spoils the racing but I believe there maybe an edit to throw a SC has often as possible after what Brawn said after Brazil, what happened to th VSC? Yeah it's ludicrous. We shou...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:03 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2017 - 2019 just an illusion after all?
Replies: 51
Views: 4413

2017 - 2019 just an illusion after all?

Did Ferrari really make gains on Mercedes for these three seasons in a fair and square manner? I mean whatever changes they've had to make have put them well back which now calls in to question the true competitiveness of those seasons compared to 2014 - 2016. I mean Mercedes dominated 2014 - 2016 w...
by F1 Racer
Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:34 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 318
Views: 15098

Re: 2020 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

pokerman wrote:Ferrari more competitive in the race.
Lol?