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by Ocon
Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:51 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The inevitable question...
Replies: 175
Views: 24093

Re: The inevitable question...

I do not think that comparing drivers to their team mates even if they are driving the same car will return a definite result as to who is better than who. Much less if said driver is only dedicated to F1, you will have to measure them when handling different type of race cars, which in a way is th...
by Ocon
Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:38 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The inevitable question...
Replies: 175
Views: 24093

Re: The inevitable question...

BIB: and that conversation will be driven entirely by how you already view Vettel. Nothing that happens this year between the Ferrari team mates will change that. So if you're already predisposed to rate Vettel low, then if he beats Leclerc, it will be because Leclerc isn't really that good, while ...
by Ocon
Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:13 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The inevitable question...
Replies: 175
Views: 24093

Re: The inevitable question...

BIB: and that conversation will be driven entirely by how you already view Vettel. Nothing that happens this year between the Ferrari team mates will change that. So if you're already predisposed to rate Vettel low, then if he beats Leclerc, it will be because Leclerc isn't really that good, while ...
by Ocon
Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:49 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The inevitable question...
Replies: 175
Views: 24093

Re: The inevitable question...

Well, we would learn that somebody else probably could get more out of the 2017 and 2018 Ferrari's. Where as far as we know, nobody could have got more out of the 2017 and 2018 Mercedes. However you want to cook it up, that weakens Vettels performance in 2017 and 2018 and you could make an argument...
by Ocon
Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:54 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The inevitable question...
Replies: 175
Views: 24093

Re: The inevitable question...

BIB: and that conversation will be driven entirely by how you already view Vettel. Nothing that happens this year between the Ferrari team mates will change that. So if you're already predisposed to rate Vettel low, then if he beats Leclerc, it will be because Leclerc isn't really that good, while ...
by Ocon
Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:07 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Bahrain Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 327
Views: 43178

Re: 2019 Bahrain Grand Prix Race Thread

I'm truly gutted for Leclerc. He has proven a hell.of a lot this weekend and that Ferrari is very capable of winning the title. For Vettel and Ferrari there were shades of 2018 there. Seb threw away potentially crucial points with the kind of error he just never seemed to make when he raced for Red...
by Ocon
Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:45 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Bahrain Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 327
Views: 43178

Re: 2019 Bahrain Grand Prix Race Thread

F1Tyrant wrote:It seems that without the protection of elderly, past-it teammates that Vettel is no better than the likes of Rosberg. Just how good was last year's Ferrari?
I'm thinking the same. Unfortunate for Ferrari to lose Alonso right before they figured it out.
by Ocon
Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:19 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2019 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 265
Views: 51244

Re: 2019 Australian Grand Prix Race Thread

Great job Bottas.
by Ocon
Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:16 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Brazilian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 171
Views: 33526

Re: 2018 Brazilian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thr

Another pole to add to the record books, if he can keep it.
by Ocon
Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:56 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 354
Views: 44846

Re: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread

This is Hamilton being silly. Another win won't matter in the larger scheme of things. A DNF may blow this wide open. Terrific from Max though, that was world-class defending. I think Lewis could have passed there in normal circumstances. He was just too careful, he was doing everything to keep as ...
by Ocon
Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:51 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 354
Views: 44846

Re: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread

This is Hamilton being silly. Another win won't matter in the larger scheme of things. A DNF may blow this wide open. Terrific from Max though, that was world-class defending. I think Lewis could have passed there in normal circumstances. He was just too careful, he was doing everything to keep as ...
by Ocon
Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:48 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 354
Views: 44846

Re: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread

Good job Kimi, so happy for him.
by Ocon
Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:44 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 354
Views: 44846

Re: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread

Holy crap.
by Ocon
Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:41 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 354
Views: 44846

Re: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread

pokerman wrote:
Ocon wrote:Hamilton should just stay calm and take the points he has here. No need to risk anything.
...and Mercedes need to tell him that, it's starting to remind me of 2007.
It looks like he's gonna stay put.
by Ocon
Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:35 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 354
Views: 44846

Re: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread

Hamilton should just stay calm and take the points he has here. No need to risk anything.
by Ocon
Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:33 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 354
Views: 44846

Re: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread

Come on Kimi!!
by Ocon
Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:30 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 354
Views: 44846

Re: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread

jiminwatford wrote:I'd like Kimi to win but i also want Lewis be on the top step when he clinches the championship
Same here, I'm conflicted about it.
by Ocon
Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:29 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 354
Views: 44846

Re: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread

I hope Kimi can get this win.
by Ocon
Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:25 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 354
Views: 44846

Re: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread

Black_Flag_11 wrote:
Ocon wrote:Ferrari should have relegated Vettel instead of Kimi.
Yeah I don't imagine F1 teams are going to be knocking on your door for consultancy services anytime soon if that's the advice you're giving out ;)
I would hope they don't. :)
by Ocon
Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:24 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 354
Views: 44846

Re: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread

F1Tyrant wrote:
Ocon wrote:Ferrari should have relegated Vettel instead of Kimi.
Don't be hyperbolic, Ocon... Neither of them deserve this Ferrari.
That I would agree with.
by Ocon
Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:19 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 354
Views: 44846

Re: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread

Ferrari should have relegated Vettel instead of Kimi.
by Ocon
Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:16 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 354
Views: 44846

Re: 2018 U.S. Grand Prix Race Thread

Lol.
by Ocon
Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:20 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Could Michael Schumacher have won in the 2018 car?
Replies: 89
Views: 19874

Re: Could Michael Schumacher have won in the 2018 car?

It's amazing how fuzz people's memories can be. Hamilton CLEARLY out-performed Vettel last season. This year has been even more clear but to say Vettel matched Hamilton's performance last season is inaccurate. And still "people" voted Vettel as the most "driver off the day" in 2017, so perhaps he d...
by Ocon
Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:15 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: [Merged] Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition
Replies: 2312
Views: 444857

Re: [Merged] Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition

Over the season Merc will likely edge Ferrari out but this don't cover Vettels mistakes however much you would like it too. Ferrari was the car to have before Singapore, even in Monza they got a front row and should have won the race. Again Vettel made a mistake and if they lead the first lap 1-2 t...
by Ocon
Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:12 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: [Merged] Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition
Replies: 2312
Views: 444857

Re: [Merged] Mercedes v Ferrari v Red Bull - 2018 edition

Agreed, Not saying Ferrari would have won the title but vettel would be leading at this point and Hamilton would be gaining fast coming towards the final races of the season. What a championship that would have been to watch. Could have been one of the greatest battles. As you stated would have Fer...
by Ocon
Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:18 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Would Hamilton in the Ferrari have beat Hamilton in the Merc
Replies: 108
Views: 24692

Re: Would Hamilton in the Ferrari have beat Hamilton in the

Zoue wrote: It was a small mistake. You appear to be confusing actions with consequences
Have to agree with that. Just because the mistake wasn't big, doesn't mean the consequences won't be.
by Ocon
Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:12 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Would Hamilton in the Ferrari have beat Hamilton in the Merc
Replies: 108
Views: 24692

Re: Would Hamilton in the Ferrari have beat Hamilton in the

A bit harsh to compare possibly Hamiltons best season to maybe Vettels worst. I think if Vettel had met expectation and his own standard then the gap would be very small at the moment. Germany alone would halve the gap. From Singapore 2017 to now, approx 25 races has been a disaster for Vettel. He ...
by Ocon
Sun Sep 30, 2018 9:03 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Russian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 449
Views: 45437

Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix Race Thread

I think you have to be careful with being overly concerned with the increasingly remote possibility of a Vettel comeback. Is it really worth damaging your relationship with one of your drivers and the very chemistry of the team (which has been very harmonious these last two seasons) in order to add...
by Ocon
Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:58 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Russian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 449
Views: 45437

Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix Race Thread

It could be that they did say he would get the place back, but later changed their mind, also. Then it's not a lie. :lol: It is possible, that's all I'm saying, even though it is unlikely. It's more likely that they never even promised him to switch back. That was not what I found funny but the fac...
by Ocon
Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:53 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Russian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 449
Views: 45437

Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix Race Thread

Of course Bottas is professional enough to understand that. Even I understand that line of reasoning. What I don't understand is what I didn't see: the necessity. Desirable it may have been, though the fact that both drivers scored points, with Bottas needing more of them than Hamilton, argues agai...
by Ocon
Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:42 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Russian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 449
Views: 45437

Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix Race Thread

Mr-E wrote:
Ocon wrote:
It could be that they did say he would get the place back, but later changed their mind, also. Then it's not a lie.
:lol:
It is possible, that's all I'm saying, even though it is unlikely. It's more likely that they never even promised him to switch back.
by Ocon
Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:40 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Russian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 449
Views: 45437

Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix Race Thread

Of course Bottas is professional enough to understand that. Even I understand that line of reasoning. What I don't understand is what I didn't see: the necessity. Desirable it may have been, though the fact that both drivers scored points, with Bottas needing more of them than Hamilton, argues agai...
by Ocon
Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:38 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Russian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 449
Views: 45437

Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix Race Thread

Of course Bottas is professional enough to understand that. Even I understand that line of reasoning. What I don't understand is what I didn't see: the necessity. Desirable it may have been, though the fact that both drivers scored points, with Bottas needing more of them than Hamilton, argues agai...
by Ocon
Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:15 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Russian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 449
Views: 45437

Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix Race Thread

Apparently Mercedes lied to Bottas about giving him the place back. That’s really ugly and shows what kind of team they really are. But of course, Ferrari are the ones who do team orders. Ferrari couldn’t even muster the courage to tell Kimi to get out of the way in Germany for 10 laps, when Vettel...
by Ocon
Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:12 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Russian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 449
Views: 45437

Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix Race Thread

Of course Bottas is professional enough to understand that. Even I understand that line of reasoning. What I don't understand is what I didn't see: the necessity. Desirable it may have been, though the fact that both drivers scored points, with Bottas needing more of them than Hamilton, argues agai...
by Ocon
Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:06 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Russian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 449
Views: 45437

Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix Race Thread

Well Bottas wasn't thrilled with today's work and let it be known on Twitter. (Click on Picture- he got Putin in the shot too - also frowning) https://twitter.com/ValtteriBottas/status/1046430941495922688 1046430941495922688 Why, what did he say? I don't see any quotes there. That is because a pict...
by Ocon
Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:53 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2018 Russian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 449
Views: 45437

Re: 2018 Russian Grand Prix Race Thread

Aren't people used to team orders by now? It always happened at the top teams and probably will continue happening. There are 5 races to go and they(Merc) need to make sure their driver will be WDC. I'm sorry about Bottas but what does he expect? He's in a top team next to a 4th time world champion...