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Why do people who know that the result was "tweaked" still want Hamilton and Mercedes to accept the "tweak" ?
That is not "natural justice".
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- Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:35 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?
- Replies: 699
- Views: 59163
- Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:33 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Will Verstappen and Hamilton collide at Abu Dhabi?
- Replies: 170
- Views: 14138
Re: Will Verstappen and Hamilton collide at Abu Dhabi?
. Well Verstappen tried very hard to hit Hamilton, but he managed to avoid it. So who is the superior driver ? The one who aimed his car to hit another, or the one who managed to avoid the collision ? . Come on, unlike the previous race, he took the turn properly and was ahead ahead at the apex. Le...
- Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:15 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Will Verstappen and Hamilton collide at Abu Dhabi?
- Replies: 170
- Views: 14138
Re: Will Verstappen and Hamilton collide at Abu Dhabi?
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Well Verstappen tried very hard to hit Hamilton, but he managed to avoid it.
So who is the superior driver ? The one who aimed his car to hit another, or the one who managed to avoid the collision ?
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Well Verstappen tried very hard to hit Hamilton, but he managed to avoid it.
So who is the superior driver ? The one who aimed his car to hit another, or the one who managed to avoid the collision ?
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- Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:11 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?
- Replies: 699
- Views: 59163
Re: Official Max Verstappen thread
. I can live with Masi being weak and incompetent, but only because he broke at least two regulations in "tweaking" the result and arbitration will make Hamilton World Driving Champion. What I find very difficult to live with is the Verstappen fans who are completely blind to what happened. I can ap...
- Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:02 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Mercedes Lodge Multiple Protests Against Result
- Replies: 342
- Views: 34340
Re: Mercedes Lodge Multiple Protests Against Result
. And what will Liberty Media think once the appeals process starts ? Better if the FIA caves in today and (relatively) quietly makes Hamilton the World Drivers Champion, citing Mesi acting outside his powers and against regulations and putting the positions back to pre-crash. Would Red Bull have an...
- Mon Dec 13, 2021 11:44 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?
- Replies: 699
- Views: 59163
Re: Abu Dhabi 2021 - How has it left you feeling?
. Angry at the illegal fiasco that was basically Masi deciding the result of the drivers' championship. Partly amused and partly angry at the attitude of those Verstappen/Red Bull fans who are seemingly blind to what happened. Expectation at Mercedes success at arbitration process, and depression at...
- Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:33 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
Re: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
Masi sequence: 1). Message all drivers that lapped cars will not be released, As a result Lewis stays out, Max pits. 2). U-turn that decision once Max is back on track and the pack has collected. Lapped cars will be released. 3). Assume divine powers to release only some of the 8 lapped cars. A new...
- Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:55 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
Re: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
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I cannot see any prospect of Mercedes not winning their appeal.
Masi, and the stewards, are fools for not just biting the bullet and admitting that Masi got it wrong.
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I cannot see any prospect of Mercedes not winning their appeal.
Masi, and the stewards, are fools for not just biting the bullet and admitting that Masi got it wrong.
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- Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:54 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
Re: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
Yep, the way some of the rules are vaguely worded gives them a lot of wriggle room. . Oh ! Please point out the "wriggle room" . The very article mentioned (15.3) that summarises the Race Director essentially being able to override other regulations (or something along those lines). . Nothing of th...
- Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:51 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
Re: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
The fia have wrote the rules as such that article 15.3 has basically given Michael masi can't blanche to do what the hell he likes. Yep, the way some of the rules are vaguely worded gives them a lot of wriggle room. . Oh ! Please point out the "wriggle room" . The very article mentioned (15.3) that...
- Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:37 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
Re: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
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Oh ! Please point out the "wriggle room"
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- Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:29 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
Re: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
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Because they are embarrassed ( and wrong ) - which is why Mercedes have appealed.
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Because they are embarrassed ( and wrong ) - which is why Mercedes have appealed.
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- Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:27 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
- Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:03 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
Re: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
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So Masi can't even acknowledge when he made the biggest mistake in F1 for years !
( How much did that cost the drivers in position money ? )
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So Masi can't even acknowledge when he made the biggest mistake in F1 for years !
( How much did that cost the drivers in position money ? )
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- Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:58 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
Re: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
. It is interesting how the online TV and newspaper reports are nowadays (i.e. today) so different from when Schumacher was racing. Then they were quite open about calling out dangerous moves, or odd decisions. So far today all the papers and TV reports I can find are strictly factual and offer no o...
- Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:00 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
Re: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
.Asphalt_World wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:52 pmMy god. Masi basically said to Toto that they ignored the rules for the sake of a race finish.
He could hardly deny it as everyone saw it happen.
IF Mercedes appeal it is going to be difficult to back Masi up.
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- Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:55 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Who wins the 2021 WDC
- Replies: 36
- Views: 3381
Re: Who wins the 2021 WDC
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MASI
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MASI
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- Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:52 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
- Replies: 51
- Views: 3700
Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
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Anyone but Verstappen, who only won curtesy of Masi.
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Anyone but Verstappen, who only won curtesy of Masi.
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- Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:46 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
Re: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
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It is a shame that the Verstappen fans seemingly saw a completely different race to the rest of us. They should be fans of F1, not TV fans.
Please can they quote the rules that Masi used to allow what he did ?
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It is a shame that the Verstappen fans seemingly saw a completely different race to the rest of us. They should be fans of F1, not TV fans.
Please can they quote the rules that Masi used to allow what he did ?
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- Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:39 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
Re: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
This was lucky for verstappen, but people can't deny that it isn't normal to not let lapped drivers through. red bull raised that, and were successful with their complaint. Verstappen just by chance won this, but why people call it discussing, i don't know. Correct. Its quite common to get at list ...
- Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:38 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
- Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:37 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
Re: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
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I wonder whether anyone has the nerve to vote for Verstappen as "driver of the day" ?
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I wonder whether anyone has the nerve to vote for Verstappen as "driver of the day" ?
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- Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:35 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
- Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:35 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
Re: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
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The FIA are not fit to run F1.
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The FIA are not fit to run F1.
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- Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:34 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
Re: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
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The race,
The "championship"
and F1 are a joke !
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The race,
The "championship"
and F1 are a joke !
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- Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:32 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
Re: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
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Now 4 cars can overtake the safety car !
What a fix.
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Now 4 cars can overtake the safety car !
What a fix.
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- Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:30 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
Re: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
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Lapped cars not being allowed to overtake / unlap themselves ?
Where did that rules come from ?
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Lapped cars not being allowed to overtake / unlap themselves ?
Where did that rules come from ?
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- Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:47 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
Re: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
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Maybe Red Bull could make Perez Verstappen's driving coach over the off season to teach him how to drive properly.
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Maybe Red Bull could make Perez Verstappen's driving coach over the off season to teach him how to drive properly.
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- Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:11 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
- Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:08 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 1214
- Views: 101829
Re: 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Thread
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So the FIA/Stewards are still allowing poor driving without punishment !
This year's "championship" is still a joke.
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So the FIA/Stewards are still allowing poor driving without punishment !
This year's "championship" is still a joke.
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- Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:17 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 797
- Views: 60194
Re: 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
.Battle Far wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:13 amMy take on the GP
Verstappen is reckless, Hamilton learnt absolutely nothing from Australia 2009
You forgot, Mesi is a disaster and the stewards are wimps for not enforcing the FIA rules.
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- Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:29 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 797
- Views: 60194
Re: 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
. Well, the Stewards after the race matched Mesi during the race - a mess. Verstappen's driving was a disgrace, totally disregarding the rules. Likewise, the stewards disregarded the rules in reaching for a punishment. Why don't the FIA just tear up the rulebook ? It does remind me of the worst days...
- Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:47 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 797
- Views: 60194
Re: 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
. Maybe Verstappen is an RAC member ; Slam on fraud In ‘slam on’ fraud cases, criminals will slam on their brakes unexpectedly in the hope that an unsuspecting car will crash into the back of their vehicle. The fraudsters will then make a claim aiming to make as much money as possible. The ‘slam on’...
- Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:10 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 797
- Views: 60194
Re: 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
. Thanks to JN23 above ; "The Article in question: "Causing a collision, repetition of serious mistakes or the appearance of a lack of control over the car (such as leaving the track) will be reported to the Stewards and may entail the imposition of penalties up to and including disqualification ." ...
- Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:05 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 797
- Views: 60194
Re: 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
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Please disqualify Verstappen - he was plain dangerous today, it would tell him (and any others) that Mesi and the stewards are serious (!) about the rules.
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Please disqualify Verstappen - he was plain dangerous today, it would tell him (and any others) that Mesi and the stewards are serious (!) about the rules.
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- Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:52 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Driver(s) of the Day - 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix
- Replies: 34
- Views: 3291
Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix
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For anyone voting for Verstappen, can you explain why you did, and why Verstappen wasn't much more heaavily penalised ?
Thank you.
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For anyone voting for Verstappen, can you explain why you did, and why Verstappen wasn't much more heaavily penalised ?
Thank you.
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- Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:48 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 797
- Views: 60194
Re: 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
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But thoroughly deserved.
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- Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:48 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 797
- Views: 60194
Re: 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
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Who got fastest lap ? As BBC website says that Verstappen is leading Hamilton by 1 point ?
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Who got fastest lap ? As BBC website says that Verstappen is leading Hamilton by 1 point ?
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- Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:43 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 797
- Views: 60194
Re: 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
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I pity the rest of the stewards after Mesi's mess of a race, there will be numerous complaints coming in from the teams.
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I pity the rest of the stewards after Mesi's mess of a race, there will be numerous complaints coming in from the teams.
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- Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:36 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 2021 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix Race Thread
- Replies: 797
- Views: 60194