He did it on purpose, Hamilton was far to the left and far ahead when Vettel got going and went straight on into him. I am sorry, but are you serious ? His signature may give you a clue! You are better than that. Ok, it was a cheap shot so I'm sorry for that. I have to say I have not seen you ever ...

Warheart01 wrote:He did it on purpose, Hamilton was far to the left and far ahead when Vettel got going and went straight on into him.

I am sorry, but are you serious ?

You can't deny Vettel aggressivity at the start caused the crash, can you ? I am not fond of the Vettel bashing bandwagon going on here since last sunday, but you have to admit that he got the lion's share of the blame for Singapore's start. There is not much Kimi or Verstappen could do (and don't t...

The hybrid engines have been an abject disaster for Formula One. Do you care to explain your point of view ? The engines were sold to the teams that they would be lower cost. Instead, they are massively higher in cost. We've seen several teams fold up shop due to the explosion in higher costs, all ...

But he didn't did he. Maybe he knows where the limits are. He hasn't got in to trouble like Verstappen and nor has he taken another driver out or badly affected his own race due to an overly risky move like Verstappen has. What Massa did could be put in the same box as thoses Verstappen moves you a...

This thread is already turning out to be hilarious. In past weeks we have had Hamilton get several Grand Chlemens, lead from lights out to flag and various people find every excuse possible to give driver of the weekend to someone else, because Hamilton didn't have to work for his totally dominatin...

. Why did someone vote for Vettel - he messed his title hopes up. . Yep 14 votes for the driver that basically ruined the race. Yes, 14 votes for a driver at a center of a racing incident where any other driver would have made the same mistake. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ You have no way whatsoever of proving that. ...

Herb Tarlik wrote:The hybrid engines have been an abject disaster for Formula One.

Do you care to explain your point of view ?

For next season, he needs a car that is faster in qualifying and more reliable. I'm convinced that his mistakes partially came from desperation and the fact that he was fighting an uphill battle for most of the season. How does that explain Singapore, he would have taken back the lead of the champi...

I agree with Christian Horner...the hybrid engines are the worst thing to happen to F1 in recent memory. They (his words) have done *nothing* but damage F1. http://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/21193057/christian-horner-says-f1-scrap-current-engines-soon-enough if the renault was as dominant as the me...

2005, 2012, 2016. The first one is obvious, I loved the fight between 3 fast cars and amazing drivers. 2012, because it has been an unpredictable one, Kimi came back, the front was kinda even, and in the end I think Vettel deserved to win. Finally, I loved 2016 for various reasons, the rise of Verst...

pokerman wrote:

Greenman wrote:.

Why did someone vote for Vettel - he messed his title hopes up.

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Yep 14 votes for the driver that basically ruined the race.

Yes, 14 votes for a driver at a center of a racing incident where any other driver would have made the same mistake. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Max is fast enough to run with Hamilton and Vettel. He had by far the least to lose if it became a game of driving dodgem cars. Max also seems to have studied the art of contacting other cars. It may be interesting next year in terms of the amount of contact that will be taking place. It could be c...

It's terribly unlucky for Daniel of late but I think Max went through this in the first half of the season so it evens out a bit within the team and becomes more representative in terms of the points. Ricciardo's now had worse luck with reliability than Verstappen. 3 engine failures and 1 brake fai...

GingerFurball wrote:People are seriously underestimating Ricciardo in this thread.

And why ? Sadly, Ricciardo is becoming old news in comparison with Verstappen.

Yes that might be true however when Max was having problems the Red Bull was not a race winning car on pure pace alone like it is now at some circuits. (= Dan losing potentially more points than Max did per DNF) While that might be true, you have to take into account what each DNF cost separately. ...

Yes there is a marked difference between a teammate being prepared to crash into you, that would be the kind of teammate that maybe is preferable for Hamilton? Nice attempt to make Hamilton look like a victim. Hamilton was no holier than Rosberg. USA 2015 was a blatant move to punt Nico off the tra...

We simply cannot go back to tracks from 60s, 70s, 80s or even 90s where there is grass or gravel everywhere. Runoffs have played an important role in reducing the morality from the Formula 1, you simply cant reverse that because a fan favourite driver is penalised. That is very narrow minded thinki...

Ocon wrote:

Fantaribo wrote:

Ocon wrote:Ham is gonna swallow him easily.

Over-confident you seem

It's only a matter of time now, he's biding his time.

You were in the wrong, I guess.

10 Second Stop/Go for Seb. Could have been longer. And seb has to gall to ask, "What did I do, dangerous driving?" Vettel is an idiot. Vettel is not an idiot. He's a blithering idiot. Hopefully in addition to the stop and go penalty, Charlie assesses him an additional 10 position grid penalty for n...

And Danny is going to win, while being outpaced by his team-mate since a while...

Ocon wrote:Ham is gonna swallow him easily.

Over-confident you seem

Herb Tarlik wrote:No penalty for Hamilton I might add. He did nothing wrong. Nothing.

Vettel getting a penalty for this while Hamilton is untouched is terribly unfair

Hamilton brake-tested him. Penalty. Vettel bangs into him. Penalty. I want Vettel to win, but I won't believe this if both of them aren't penalised. You can't just stop giving penalties, the stewards are becoming bonkers. No message even saying the incident is noted?! Hamilton didn't brake He did. ...

Legitimate reaction from Vettel considering what Hamilton has done.

If Ocon had so much more speed he could have overtaken Perez, but he couldn't so how could he then attack Ricciardo. The pace needed by Ocon to overtake Perez was higher than the one he could use to pass Ricciardo, given the straight line abilities of both cars. Perez was struggling with tyres and ...

-ZeroGravityToilet- wrote:Grosjean, the most overrated and dangerous driver in many years.
God...

You've got to be kidding me. What should Grosjean have done to avoid Sainz waving and touching him twice while the only he was doing was going straight ?

Grosjean was bad, very bad in 2012, and as he proved in Russia, when he was trying to pass Palmer while being completely on the inside kerb, his spatial awareness is still horrible. He was a terrible racer, and now he's just a bad racer. To be honest, I struggle to find any unbiased argument suppor...

Grosjean was bad, very bad in 2012, and as he proved in Russia, when he was trying to pass Palmer while being completely on the inside kerb, his spatial awareness is still horrible. He was a terrible racer, and now he's just a bad racer. To be honest, I struggle to find any unbiased argument suppor...

Australia :

1. Vettel
2. Hamilton
3. Verstappen
4. Raikkonen
5. Ricciardo
6. Bottas
7. Hulkenberg
8. Perez
9. Grosjean
10. Sainz

WDC
1. Vettel
2. Hamilton
3. Verstappen

WCC
1. Ferrari
2. Red Bull
3. Mercedes