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keenf1fan

Whilst a nice comeback drive, it does feel like Kimi cannot put together a complete weekend anymore. A complete weekend where he does not make any small mistakes or big, qualifying or race.

keenf1fan

gherkin poor race from Kimi. Here was the chance to steal the thunder a little bit with vettel out of the way, put his face on the podium and get closer to the seat next year. But he messed up. I mean if you ask a question, is kimi optimizing points as a No 2 driver, the answer would have to be NO. ...

keenf1fan

May be 3 car teams. Kimi, Alonso and Vettel for ferrari 2015

keenf1fan

You left out people who start off on the defensive straightaway "I am not a raikkonen (or a hamilton fan or a vetted fan), but his driving today was amazing"

keenf1fan

Points first 10 races: Kimi 134 Romain 49 Points next 7 races when they raced together: Kimi 49 Romain: 65 Do you still think lotus lost second in WCC due to kimi? Grosjean scoring not even near half the points as kimi is not a problem Kimi scoring 16 points less than grosjean in next 7 races cost ...

keenf1fan

Ah, slight typo there on my part. I mean't, of course, the WCC, not the WDC :blush: But in my defence i thought my argument would have been obvious from the context - did you think I was talking about the WDC? Then it wouldn't have made any sense. Ah, I made the same typo like you, and I did not no...

keenf1fan

Ah, slight typo there on my part. I mean't, of course, the WCC, not the WDC :blush: But in my defence i thought my argument would have been obvious from the context - did you think I was talking about the WDC? Then it wouldn't have made any sense. Ah, I made the same typo like you, and I did not no...

keenf1fan

And since the other way is as much as applicable, i.e. that RoGro got enough points to get Lotus to 4th in the WDC on his own , it turns out that Lotus succeeding in coming up with such a competitive car to be a shot into own foot. It effectively enabled Kimi to amass so many points only to cost Lo...

keenf1fan

And since the other way is as much as applicable, i.e. that RoGro got enough points to get Lotus to 4th in the WDC on his own , it turns out that Lotus succeeding in coming up with such a competitive car to be a shot into own foot. It effectively enabled Kimi to amass so many points only to cost Lo...

keenf1fan

It looks like an attempt to wash away the negative publicity they have attracted recently. Schumacher driving the lotus for the last 3 races might make people forget the pay fiasco or kimi not racing for the team

keenf1fan

Massa obviously knows more than anyone here of course, but he was also team-mate to an ageing Schumacher who himself admitted he was tired that year and looking forward to retirement I don't believe this; if he was indeed looking forward to retirement, he would not have kept Ferrari waiting for an ...

keenf1fan

Alonso signed for Ferrari in late 2008. The year they won the WCC and very nearly won the WDC in Massa's hands. He thought he was going to a team all set for winning titles already. He got a shock in 09 when Ferrari dropped the ball and he probably realised then he'd have a lot of work to do in the...

keenf1fan

Another couple of things that are possibly related to the discussion about the difference between the drivers. 1) Hamilton/Kimi are almost self-deprecating in some ways and are more likely to talk bout their mistakes than the other 2. 2) Vettel/Alonso hate losing to their teammates are are bound to ...

keenf1fan

I know these 4 drivers, are acknowledged as the top 4. Whilst I dont want to go into cars/teams etc, I feel all 4 are amazingly talented drivers. However I also feel Fernando and sebastian are a step above in intensity. They tend to make fewer 'small' mistakes during the course of the season , thei...

keenf1fan

I know these 4 drivers, are acknowledged as the top 4. Whilst I dont want to go into cars/teams etc, I feel all 4 are amazingly talented drivers. However I also feel Fernando and sebastian are a step above in intensity. They tend to make fewer 'small' mistakes during the course of the season , thei...

keenf1fan

Keenf1fan, I really enjoyed your thread and your thoughts on the top four. You are touching on what I think are those slight apparent differences between personalities/drivers'psyches that make the differences in their racing ability. Behavioural science/psyhological studies/discovering areas of br...

keenf1fan

I do have my concerns when people say stuff like 'naturally gifted' because I don't think that's true very often. It starts with opportunity and continues with determination and sacrifice. There's nothing natural about driving a car. ... a lot of people think my best mate is 'naturally gifted' at p...

keenf1fan

I know these 4 drivers, are acknowledged as the top 4. Whilst I dont want to go into cars/teams etc, I feel all 4 are amazingly talented drivers. However I also feel Fernando and sebastian are a step above in intensity. They tend to make fewer 'small' mistakes during the course of the season , their...

keenf1fan

Whilst Alonso's actions are probably justified, it then becomes a grey area everytime somebody crosses the white lines, if its justified or not. And stewarding consistency is not then very difficult to implement. And you have people questioning calls.

keenf1fan

Was massa hard done on that second pit stop or was alonso just faster anyway? Massa looked good until then

keenf1fan

froze wrote:

Hopefully that car has some of the cash lotus owes him and we will see him US/brazil

keenf1fan

Now that the championship is settled, they should make vettel start from P22 for fairy cakes and giggles

keenf1fan

Massa is doing his chances of finding another seat no harm at all, some glimpses of massa of 2008 and perhaps when he is not the lap dog, he is not going too badly

keenf1fan

Kimi could have used his experience to navigate the bunch of rookies around him.

keenf1fan

The whole lotus reliability has been bad the last few races, brake issues in spa and india for kimi, engine issues for romain in singapore and India, the seat fitting fiasco. Kers issues randomly. And now the flooring issue. They could well have been 2 nd in WCC by now.

keenf1fan

Sure it was rude and unprofessional - but no worse than what we've heard from Kimi back to his engineers which is deemed hilarious. It is unprofessional, rude is something completely different. People just simply dont seem to understand the concept, when you are the boss or a person in power you do...

keenf1fan

I will not discuss who was at fault and why the f**k is used. But I can bet that wherever Kimi goes his prime objective is to get lot of money (being professional there is nothing wrong with it) but his money only attitude always get him into trouble, he had problems with Ferrari only over money, h...

keenf1fan

priestlysabbath wrote:Permane : Kimi, get out of the f*****g way !!
Kimi : Give me my f*****g pay !!

That was funny

keenf1fan

I will not discuss who was at fault and why the f**k is used. But I can bet that wherever Kimi goes his prime objective is to get lot of money (being professional there is nothing wrong with it) but his money only attitude always get him into trouble, he had problems with Ferrari only over money, h...

keenf1fan

Amateur translation of article at TS, Heikki Kulta Räikkönen put a stop to the blaming F1 | Turun Sanomat 18:58 | 0 Kimi Räikkönen's press conference after Abu Dhabi Grand Prix -free practice said it all. The reason why he wanted to stay home became clear to everyone. – The radio message alone didn...

keenf1fan

Before asking kimi to get out of the f* way, may be they should use their f* brains and their f* radio to warn the driver in front. There was absolutely no warning to Kimi before Grosjean put his nose by the side. shows up lotus in bad light http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/11/01/2013-indian-grand-pr...

keenf1fan

Before asking kimi to get out of the f* way, may be they should use their f* brains and their f* radio to warn the driver in front. There was absolutely no warning to Kimi before Grosjean put his nose by the side. shows up lotus in bad light http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/11/01/2013-indian-grand-pr...

keenf1fan

He came back to F1 for cash, he goes to Ferrari for cash, he simply don't care whether they will have good car or whatever, just pay me. Crawl back under that rock you came from. From last I checked, ferrari has more points than Lotus and Fernando has more points than Kimi, does not sound like ferr...

keenf1fan

Kimi showing his true colours. He has millions in the bank, has a dream job and is throwing the toys out the pram. He got paid at the end of last year and will do so again, man up. This thread isn't about Vitali Petrov or Pastor Maldonado. Forget the millions, atleast lotus should have the decency ...

keenf1fan

Permane being useless as a strategist is not something that came out of this incident. Anybody who has been following strategies for the last 3 years will know. There has been more disastrous ones than there have been good ones.

keenf1fan

Whilst its no secret that permane and kimi dont get along well, permane may be a kind of guy who swears often and the latest incident also came as a matter of habit. I remember at the end of korea gp when he said 'a big ducking smile' in that tone to grosjean thinking man, this guy is treating gros ...

keenf1fan

I do hope Parmane isn't over-egging the blancmange. Not that I'm keen on the idea of his receiving threats. If he has been the victim of malicious or menacing communications he really ought to notify the police. I don't know Twitter's policy on these sorts of things but if a crime has been committe...

keenf1fan

Lets assume the world has 3 weird people in a sample of 10. Now if Alonso has 100,000 fans it means 30,000 fans are weird. Because Kimi has 100,000,000,000 fans (just as an example), the number of weirdos also grow up. Its not about kimi or his fan club. Its just statistics. Greater the sample, grea...

keenf1fan

We will have 'is alonso over-rated' thread

keenf1fan

Lotus reacting to the negative reactions from their actions. No matter what happened on the track, using an expletive against any driver (let alone a man who had nearly double the points of the other guy) is not done. And looks like bouiller realises that. And is displaying better sense a lot of peo...

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