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phyz wrote:Well it's hard to know which team will make a good car, so yes, it is all about luck.

That said, I'm sure these three still have quite a few years left so they have many more chances to keep winning.

Roll on 2014 (for Lewis anyway)

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Ferrari qualifies behind Red Bull, McLaren, Lotus, Mercedes, and Force India in the big title decider? Alonso qualifies 2 posns and 3 tenths behind Massa with his back to the wall? Think we can safely say Red Bull have this one in the bag. Maybe Lewis will smash Seb first corner in some sort of str...

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When you're Hamilton, Vettel or Alonso, having the best car goes beyond luck. Fangio was happy to switch from team to team when he recognised another would provide him with the best car. Unfortunately modern drivers look more into their paycheque than at what records they can break. If Hamilton was...

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I certainly agree we have 3 outstanding drivers here, it will ultimately be machinery that separates them when the WDCs are totted up in the history books. All extremely talented but the most fortunate will be a 3 time working down to Lewis who has been incredibly unlucky and could well retire with ...

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well done hamilton, legend chocolate fudge cake that was close he's the only driver who gets my heartrate up when he's driving that was a Legendary drive That man is a legend jeesh look at the rst of the times. Imagine him against seb in teh Redbull. He would destroy Seb handsdown Sure he would Wou...

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Wow, I didn't expect Lewis to get so close to Vettel. He was miles ahead for the whole weekend. It's gonna be juicy at the start tomorrow, with Lewis in the supposedly better starting spot. Grosjean is also ready in 4th, with Webber close by. Lewis will be 4th or 5th by the first corner on the ice ...

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Wow, I didn't expect Lewis to get so close to Vettel. He was miles ahead for the whole weekend. It's gonna be juicy at the start tomorrow, with Lewis in the supposedly better starting spot. Grosjean is also ready in 4th, with Webber close by. Lewis will be 4th or 5th by the first corner on the ice ...

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Think Lewis just proved his class in that quali just by getting any where near Vettel.

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keenf1fan wrote:
Emerson.F wrote:
Miffy wrote:It's like Kimi 2003 or 2005 all over again.
In five years we will say it's like lewis 2012 all over again.
We say Kimi 2003 and 2005 cos he finished 2 points behind in the championship

Lewis is almost 100 behind at the moment, and Kimi probably had more reliability failures

2007?

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I can see no other explanation

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Glen C. wrote:So, definitely open air above the rail. That is scary, when thinking about the inevitable.

Thanks for the picture.

GC

Don't they have similar things at many high landmarks across the world?

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Look, I'm a Hamilton fan, it's absolutely gutting the way this season has gone as in my eyes he should at least still be in a position to win the WDC but I honestly put it down to horrible luck and human error, nothing malicious at all. The reasons for Lewis leaving McLaren however is a much more mu...

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3 mechanical failure for Lewis in 3 races,at this level and at this stage of the season is really professional and operational malpractice,Im sure they will have perfectly innocent and reasonable explanation for each but its looking like not giving a 100 percent to me to put it charitably what even...

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Seems Lewis has refuted MWs comments

"I was a little surprised to hear that, it's absolutely not the case,"

"I'm very, very happy with the decision I have made."

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I think realistically you can have 2 options for a true level playing field, a spec series which rules out the factory constructors and few want so can't happen or a reasonable and fairly enforsed budget cap which would get my vote. I'd be interested to see a wcc table that included the current spen...

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Wish they'd found a way to pre-rubber the overtaking zones off-line. Otherwise, I like it. But when the drivers are saying it's too slippery off-line, and Pirelli is saying it will be a 1-stopper, it sounds like it might become a boring procession this first year. I think that the slippery track wi...

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metamorphomisk wrote:Let's put a cemented wall in every corner there..... cause you know, more " punishment ".

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This is a serious question.. No trolling I just want to know why they proper hate him! He's been around a long time and paid his way in the game (never funded by a Red Bull academy or taken on by a major team at a young age and funded through lower formulas) So why can they hate him so much? When m...

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@ bartonz20let Out of interest, why do people put all that time, effort and money in to a Vauxhall Astra? I really don't get it. Imagine the smile on my face when I smoke someone in a car they have spent £70-£100 grand on, I could have had an impreza or old evo for the same money but I'd sooner be ...

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And Jenson has nothing to do with McLarens nightmare season, I think you guys are struggling to be objective. Sure he does... how dare he breathe the air that Lewis does. How dare Jenson to not let Lewis outscore himself by a decent margin. I say that's pretty foul on JB's part. The nerve! The chee...

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A2jdl wrote:I thought Hamilton fans hated every other driver !

Hamilton fans hate Hamilton....

Dam Scot's ruined Scotland.

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Perilouscow wrote:Grosjean, so i can just smile and constantly look happy

Brilliant

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My dirty boy racer Vauxhall Astra, currently being re built for 400-500 bhp (depending on finance and drivability), off the road at the moment. VXR Turbo VXR Rail & Injectors 80mm AFM TX FMIC Courts Top-Hat Carbon Dynamics BMC Airbox Steel Alloy Radiator Baily DV36 All coolant and air hoses now blue...

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....or what personal qualities do you like. Past or present, you not allowed to include results or team performance (and by doing so forfeit you view) based solely on F1 personality alone, who would you like to emulate in your day to day life, shallow I know but interested to know what personalities...

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And Jenson has nothing to do with McLarens nightmare season, I think you guys are struggling to be objective. Sure he does... how dare he breathe the air that Lewis does. How dare Jenson to not let Lewis outscore himself by a decent margin. I say that's pretty foul on JB's part. The nerve! The chee...

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Of all the top drivers, the McLaren duo seem to be the most closely matched on the grid. Both Vettel and Alonso, for example, are rarely, if ever, threatened by their team mates, so their fans probably don't feel the need to defend their drivers against being beaten by someone in equal machinery, w...

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Of all the top drivers, the McLaren duo seem to be the most closely matched on the grid. Both Vettel and Alonso, for example, are rarely, if ever, threatened by their team mates, so their fans probably don't feel the need to defend their drivers against being beaten by someone in equal machinery, w...

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Of all the top drivers, the McLaren duo seem to be the most closely matched on the grid. Both Vettel and Alonso, for example, are rarely, if ever, threatened by their team mates, so their fans probably don't feel the need to defend their drivers against being beaten by someone in equal machinery, w...

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PzR Slim wrote:And so it starts. That didn't take long. What both sets of fans need to realise is that they are all part of the problem

Really, do you have to be so reasonable, It makes me feel physically sick.

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Well, I think this thread is just going to show that whilst some Lewis fans have issues about Jenson, the exact same thing can be said about Jenson fans with Lewis. All this thread achieves is to polarise opinion as I'm sure was the intention, but I suppose this forum has been lacking Lewis v Jenso...

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Well, I think this thread is just going to show that whilst some Lewis fans have issues about Jenson, the exact same thing can be said about Jenson fans with Lewis. All this thread achieves is to polarise opinion as I'm sure was the intention, but I suppose this forum has been lacking Lewis v Jenson...

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And Jenson has nothing to do with McLarens nightmare season, I think you guys are struggling to be objective. Jenson had nothing to do with Qiwater's post witch was a flame bait post a best. So tell me why STR's post was any different in the other thread? Because Str's had something to do with Jens...

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I remember hating Liverpool football club when I was young.. Then I grew up and realised its not hate but pettiness I don't hate anyone in F1, I can find something to admire someone for in all that compete This. But when comes to Jenson some can't bring them self to say any thing nice about him jus...

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dave_the_fish wrote:
bartonz20let wrote:And Jenson has nothing to do with McLarens nightmare season, I think you guys are struggling to be objective.
Jenson had nothing to do with Qiwater's post witch was a flame bait post a best.

So tell me why STR's post was any different in the other thread?

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I don't hate him, didn't want him to be #2 either. I said in another thread I wanted to Jensen and Lewis battling for the WDC and I think McLaren have done an injustice to both drivers by providing substandard equipment and failing to manage the inter team relationship correctly. Edit; there are ext...

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And Jenson has nothing to do with McLarens nightmare season, I think you guys are struggling to be objective.

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@Qiwater We're talking about Vettel and Alonso not Button.. Why did you need to mention him? We were talking about the need for vettel and Alonso to just maintain a lead by going back for lost points compared to then amount of points Lewis lost. Shows you have one serious hang up about JB that you ...

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@Qiwater We're talking about Vettel and Alonso not Button.. Why did you need to mention him? We were talking about the need for vettel and Alonso to just maintain a lead by going back for lost points compared to then amount of points Lewis lost. Shows you have one serious hang up about JB that you ...

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Whilst I respect your opinion I think you need to add something factual and substantial to make it anything more than just another opinion. OK, but are we not all conjecturing to some extent here based on our own experiences and views about people in general? That's what makes the forum interesting...

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