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Paolo_Lasardi

Comparing two completely different Massa's here is selective storytelling at best. Massa was on the road to retirement at Williams - would anyone dare make such a judgement about Raikkonen in Alfa vs Raikkonen in McLaren? Massa was significantly younger at Williams than Räikkönen is now. Furthermor...

Paolo_Lasardi

Comparing two completely different Massa's here is selective storytelling at best. Massa was on the road to retirement at Williams - would anyone dare make such a judgement about Raikkonen in Alfa vs Raikkonen in McLaren? Massa was significantly younger at Williams than Räikkönen is now. Furthermor...

Paolo_Lasardi

Shows how straw man your argument is... No point responding to this How? I am just correcting a wrong statement by you. It is a fact that Russell did not beat Bottas. Bottas was on pole and finished ahead in the race. Please get your facts right. ;-) Desperate stuff tbh. This is like arguing that B...

Paolo_Lasardi

Compare Russell's debut in a Merc to Massa's first few efforts in a Ferrari. In his first race with Ferrari - Bahrain 2006 - Massa was second on the grid, 0.047 seconds behind Schumacher. You sound like an extremely short sighted person, merely looking at results with ZERO context...You do realize ...

Paolo_Lasardi

schumilegend wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:35 pm
Paola Lasardi since you are a facts and numbers guy do you also believe Bernie Ecclestone is wealthier than Rockefeller?

I have no idea - and I don't care.

Paolo_Lasardi

Anybody looking at Massa and Bottas objectively can see that Massa had to fight tooth and nails for his wins with prime Alonso, Raikkonen, Hamilton, Vettel, Webber, Schumacher, Rosberg . Massa never had the luxury of a car where the lead driver could lap the entire field of cars .. Comparing Massa’...

Paolo_Lasardi

Not a chance a Bottas/Massa level driver comes in last minute at Bahrain and does what Russell did. We will see. I was right with Vandoorne, maybe I am wrong this time. ;-) Compare Russell's debut in a Merc to Massa's first few efforts in a Ferrari. In his first race with Ferrari - Bahrain 2006 - M...

Paolo_Lasardi

in a very non aggressive fashion would like to post this https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-verstappen-lewis-hamilton-george-russell/ I think you guys fail to see the truth here.. how can you get around the fact that a junior driver with a few hours of driving time beats your second driver who has b...

Paolo_Lasardi

Massa's deficit to Schumacher was not significantly different than Barrichello's and Irvine's. Thus, it is plausible that Bottas > Massa = Barrichello = Irvine. I'm reasonably sure this is inaccurate. I don't have the numbers offhand, but I thought Massa was something like ~0.6s off Schumacher. The...

Paolo_Lasardi

in a very non aggressive fashion would like to post this https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-verstappen-lewis-hamilton-george-russell/ I think you guys fail to see the truth here.. how can you get around the fact that a junior driver with a few hours of driving time beats your second driver who has b...

Paolo_Lasardi

Massa's deficit to Schumacher was not significantly different than Barrichello's and Irvine's. Thus, it is plausible that Bottas > Massa = Barrichello = Irvine. I'm reasonably sure this is inaccurate. I don't have the numbers offhand, but I thought Massa was something like ~0.6s off Schumacher. The...

Paolo_Lasardi

in a very non aggressive fashion would like to post this https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-verstappen-lewis-hamilton-george-russell/ I think you guys fail to see the truth here.. how can you get around the fact that a junior driver with a few hours of driving time beats your second driver who has b...

Paolo_Lasardi

Compare Russell's debut in a Merc to Massa's first few efforts in a Ferrari. In his first race with Ferrari - Bahrain 2006 - Massa was second on the grid, 0.047 seconds behind Schumacher. And then spun in the race, lost all confidence, drove very slowly and finished out the points behind Rosberg ma...

Paolo_Lasardi

Not a chance a Bottas/Massa level driver comes in last minute at Bahrain and does what Russell did. We will see. I was right with Vandoorne, maybe I am wrong this time. ;-) Compare Russell's debut in a Merc to Massa's first few efforts in a Ferrari. In his first race with Ferrari - Bahrain 2006 - M...

Paolo_Lasardi

in a very non aggressive fashion would like to post this https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-verstappen-lewis-hamilton-george-russell/ I think you guys fail to see the truth here.. how can you get around the fact that a junior driver with a few hours of driving time beats your second driver who has b...

Paolo_Lasardi

in a very non aggressive fashion would like to post this https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-verstappen-lewis-hamilton-george-russell/ I think you guys fail to see the truth here.. how can you get around the fact that a junior driver with a few hours of driving time beats your second driver who has b...

Paolo_Lasardi

in a very non aggressive fashion would like to post this https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-verstappen-lewis-hamilton-george-russell/ I think you guys fail to see the truth here.. how can you get around the fact that a junior driver with a few hours of driving time beats your second driver who has b...

Paolo_Lasardi

in a very non aggressive fashion would like to post this https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-verstappen-lewis-hamilton-george-russell/ I think you guys fail to see the truth here.. how can you get around the fact that a junior driver with a few hours of driving time beats your second driver who has b...

Paolo_Lasardi

Here's the combined data for teammates who have spent more than one season together. In all cases, the numbers are listed in the same order as the driver's names. Lewis Hamilton vs. Valtteri Bottas (three TMW seasons together) TMW season wins: 3 vs. 0 TMW race wins: 46 vs. 12 Votes: 1109 vs. 387 Pe...

Paolo_Lasardi

Nice to see Brits in a British board trying to justify a British driver to be superior than a German driver....very surprising Well Hamilton does have very impressive accomplishments which are in the same bracket as Schumacher's, so it seems like a reasonable debate to have. LOL...ok...Let's just i...

Paolo_Lasardi

A lot of people think that one was Ricciardo's fault, to be fair. I think Barcelona was a 50/50 incident. I can't put all the blame on either driver. Senna defended to the inside and then moved left, but he left room for Schumacher. Michael started going left with Senna, but then cut back right in ...

Paolo_Lasardi

How, where's the evidence? I've done some maths and think I worked it out. After six rounds (Monaco), if you take the position that Schumacher was in when he retired and give him the win in Monaco his results would have been: Australia 3rd, Malaysia 10th (finished), China 2nd, Bahrain 10th (finishe...

Paolo_Lasardi

Why are we saying Schumacher's crash with Bruno was Schumacher's fault? It was a carbon copy of Max/Ricciardo at Baku, the driver in front was weaving in the braking zone. It was Bruno's fault. A lot of people think that one was Ricciardo's fault, to be fair. I think Barcelona was a 50/50 incident....

Paolo_Lasardi

Yeah, that statement is just certifiably wrong. Also, (along with Kimi circa 2003-2007) Button is clearly better than Barrichello. In their time together, the podium count was 12 to 7, and the win count 7 to 2. And every time their car was good (2006, 2009), Jenson would rise to the occasion and tr...

Paolo_Lasardi

I think Schumacher would have done clearly better than Hamilton in 2011 and 2013. In 2011 in particular, I think that prime Michael would have challenged for the WDC. The RB7 was no more dominant than the MP4/13, and Vettel similar to Hakkinen. I would question how Schumacher would have being able ...

Paolo_Lasardi

Hakkinen's damage in terms of his racing ability is unknown and being close to death doesn't mean he wasn't fully recovered as a racing driver - see Massa who insists he was fine afterwards, as does Rob Smedley. But Schumacher's damage from his 2009 accident is known: https://www.thinkspain.com/new...

Paolo_Lasardi

When you mention Schumacher's neurological damage, why do you remain silent on Hakkinen's? Without Adelaide, Schumacher would have a much more relentless opposition. Hamilton fought significant more competitive teammates. Alonso, Rosberg, arguably Button are all better than Schumacher's teammates. ...

Paolo_Lasardi

To echo pokerman's point: Schumacher competition 1996-1998: Damon Hill, Jacques Villeneuve, Mika Hakkinen, Heinz-Harald Frentzen, David Coulthard Hamilton's competition 2009-2013: Jenson Button, Sebastian Vettel, Mark Webber, Fernando Alonso, Kimi Raikkonen Most of Schumacher's contemporaries were ...

Paolo_Lasardi

I don’t think that Hamilton 2009-2013 was as good as Schumacher 1996-98. To echo pokerman's point: Schumacher competition 1996-1998: Damon Hill, Jacques Villeneuve, Mika Hakkinen, Heinz-Harald Frentzen, David Coulthard Hamilton's competition 2009-2013: Jenson Button, Sebastian Vettel, Mark Webber, ...

Paolo_Lasardi

I tend to think that, of all the places where I see voting on driver performance, these threads are the most accurate. The noise from people just voting for their favorite driver is quite impressively low, indicating that you've managed to make a thread on the internet where people take the result ...

Paolo_Lasardi

Surpassing in numbers and surpassing in status are quite different - for many (including myself), Hamilton struggles to make the top 5 GOATs, let alone the singular best. Perhaps it's different for you, but beating Bottas day in and day out in a car miles ahead of everyone else on the grid doesn't ...

Paolo_Lasardi

It took a complete rule change with regards to the tyre regulations to halt Ferrari's domination. No such luck for us in 2021. The rules are stable, there is little scope for development, Ferrari are weak and pathetic, Red Bull have an engine partner pulling the plug at the end of the season and Me...

Paolo_Lasardi

This is why I regard Lewis Hamilton as the best of all time. He has surpassed both without controversy and unfair driving. Surpassing in numbers and surpassing in status are quite different - for many (including myself), Hamilton struggles to make the top 5 GOATs, let alone the singular best. Perha...

Paolo_Lasardi

Of course you can, deliberately nerfing the team that dominates the sport has happened plenty of times. I was OK with Hamilton dominating in 2014 and 2015 because those were the first two dominant cars he ever had in his career. But 2021 will be the 6th dominant car of Hamilton’s career. This kind ...

Paolo_Lasardi

Look I appreciate it's better to have a closer fight at the front but you can't really manufacture that and still call it F1. Of course you can, deliberately nerfing the team that dominates the sport has happened plenty of times. I was OK with Hamilton dominating in 2014 and 2015 because those were...

Paolo_Lasardi

You think it's laughable? Really? I mean does he have the proven resume Hamilton does? No. But to say it's laughable.... Is well..... Laughable.... Be careful you may be laughing. 23 times next year. It obviously would weaken Mercedes which I imagine is probably preferable? Yep! All the way to the ...

Paolo_Lasardi

Look I appreciate it's better to have a closer fight at the front but you can't really manufacture that and still call it F1. Of course you can, deliberately nerfing the team that dominates the sport has happened plenty of times. I was OK with Hamilton dominating in 2014 and 2015 because those were...

Paolo_Lasardi

You think it's laughable? Really? I mean does he have the proven resume Hamilton does? No. But to say it's laughable.... Is well..... Laughable.... Be careful you may be laughing. 23 times next year. It obviously would weaken Mercedes which I imagine is probably preferable? Yep! All the way to the ...

Paolo_Lasardi

Schumacher lost in 2005 because Bridgestone made some terrible tyres , in 2006 he lost on points to Alonso but it was seen as a close loss, it didn't define Alonso as being better than him but certainly on the same level, then who came along a year later and did similar to Alonso and at that he was...

Paolo_Lasardi

In fairness, some of the planned regulation changes for 2021 are designed to tackle that problem. The budget cap will put an end to Mercedes outspending the midfield teams by $200m to $300m. The teams that finish further down the grid will be allowed more hours to develop their car in the windtunne...

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