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What Hamilton did to Rosberg is similar to what Max did to Hamilton in Imola, what Max did to Leclerc was different, what's interesting is I believe that Rosberg got penalised twice on that same corner for doing the same thing, once with Hamilton and then again with Max, Max does it and it's nothin...

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This is Max being Max, not willing to give an inch even when it's clear he's at a disadvantage and relying on intimidation to force the other guy to lift because there's no way he's going to yield, but in this instance, he tried to intimidate the wrong driver on the wrong day, whilst helping said d...

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This is Max being Max, not willing to give an inch even when it's clear he's at a disadvantage and relying on intimidation to force the other guy to lift because there's no way he's going to yield, but in this instance, he tried to intimidate the wrong driver on the wrong day, whilst helping said d...

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Yes, his career ended when he left Red Bull. Never should have ran from Max. He didn't run from Max, he was disgusted by the blatant lack of loyalty and band wagon culture within the team. He witnessed it happen when he bested Vettel, which saw him become their priority and he did a stellar job for...

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I don't think Ricciardo is done. He's every bit as great as he's always been, but something about the Mclaren car doesn't suit his preferences, though he's grown faster over the course of this season. Of note, Norris has is now in the third evolution of that car and has grown with it season to seaso...

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The most blame I could see fair on Hamilton is 5-10% for not turning is a hair tighter I would like to see the size of your hair. Or perhaps rather not... ;) LMAO! I almost spit my coffee all over my screen! Sadly, I'm approaching the half century mark so these days, I'm thinning up front. :uhoh: S...

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Where are you getting your take on my opinion of Max? I have clearly stated countless times that Max is a sensational talent, but his arrogant nature and can do no wrong attitude count against him because to be a great driver, you have to be able to do ALL things well, most of all, use your head, no...

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Do you really think that capitalizing half the words in your post makes your point any stronger? And no, Verstappen does not have to wait for Hamilton to turn before he turns. Verstappen just needs to leave enough space down the inside when he turns, which he did. At that point, if the driver on th...

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Being that Verstappen was ahead “AND” Hamilton had MORE THAN A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF HIS CAR ALONGSIDE UPON ENTRY TO THE CORNER, it was Verstappen’s responsibility to MAINTAIN his line AND NOT cut across INTO the attacking driver. There isn’t any thy to debate on that front. Every other driver who...

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[quote="F1Tyrant If you read these rules in the plain English they are written in and don't try to put any spin or interpret them to suit your argument, then there is absolutely ZERO DOUBT Max caused the collision. Are you trying to tell me that Verstappen turning right for a right hand corner isn't...

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Verstappen chopped hamilton. You misunderstood Verstappen's actions. Had Verstappen chopped Hamilton, Hamilton would not have been able to dive into the space left on Verstappen's right. I think it likely Verstappen was even surprised Hamilton would go so close to the wall, where the track is dirty...

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Verstappen chopped hamilton. There is no denying that. Those in denial simply show their bias against hamilton and are happy to see him fail. I feel this is very unfair and partisan. I have changed my mind on the incident as I misunderstood the longstanding convention of passing on the inside. If y...

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I have no qualms about calling Hamilton or any other driver out on their mistakes whenever they make them, but I can't recall the last time Hamilton made contact with another driver outside of Rosberg in Spain 2016 (...) Alex Albon would like a word! You're absolutely correct but those incidents we...

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That would be were Hamilton as the car in front went wide in order to avoid the collision. Yes but Hamilton made the decision to avoid contact to fight another day. However, Hamilton was hot headed at Silverstone and couldn't keep his line. Needs to take this one on the chin, he messed up and Verst...

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Clearly Hamilton's fault. He was left plenty of room. And Max had waaaaaaay more room to work with yet he chose to put the squeeze on Hamilton and he caused the contact. Hamilton was way up the inside and therefore that real estate was rightfully his. Verstappen had the option of lifting and/or mai...

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Racing incident for me, just. Hamilton hadn't got ahead to claim the corner fully, but I felt the attempt was fair. Verstappen could have left more room but I don't think he was obliged to. Hamilton could have backed out, but he showed later it's a legit move. I do think there were some senna/prost...

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Clearly Hamilton's fault. He was left plenty of room. And Max had waaaaaaay more room to work with yet he chose to put the squeeze on Hamilton and he caused the contact. Hamilton was way up the inside and therefore that real estate was rightfully his. Verstappen had the option of lifting and/or mai...

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Both Hamilton and Verstappen ran wide off track once. Max lost position, that makes a difference. The mistake is the same. In terms of how it played out, Hamilton's was the more costly. In your opinion. Its your opinion that without lewis going off track, max never would have got by. Its a fact tha...

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The fact that Leclerc is leading the votes over Hamilton on so many of these categories is preposterous to the point it speaks of fanboyism. In no way is he superior to Hamilton and the closest thing to him currently is Verstappen a seven then a lot is down to the car. Put them in the same car and ...

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You're a wonderful debater who makes excellent points. :lol: You edit your post massively later (without a note stating the edits) and make it seem like I didn't address your point. I did (and quoted your whole original post), there was just nothing in your post to debate against. No, I was typing ...

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The fact that Leclerc is leading the votes over Hamilton on so many of these categories is preposterous to the point it speaks of fanboyism. In no way is he superior to Hamilton and the closest thing to him currently is Verstappen a seven then a lot is down to the car. Put them in the same car and ...

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You're a wonderful debater who makes excellent points.

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The fact that Leclerc is leading the votes over Hamilton on so many of these categories is preposterous to the point it speaks of fanboyism. As opposed to your post, which is full of objective facts and analysis? In no way is he superior to Hamilton and the closest thing to him currently is Verstap...

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The fact that Leclerc is leading the votes over Hamilton on so many of these categories is preposterous to the point it speaks of fanboyism. In no way is he superior to Hamilton and the closest thing to him currently is Verstappen a seven then a lot is down to the car. Put them in the same car and H...

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Ricciardo is still living off the hype of 2014 when he beat Vettel. The following year Kvyat beat him. The same Kvyat that didn't have enough mental toughness to survive Red Bull's corporate politics and was psychologically buried over 2016 and 2017. Seriously, I feel Kvyat was better for the most ...

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. I would note that many people have forgotten the whole saga of the flexing front wing, where camera evidence led to the testing regime being tightened up (not least the Red Bull management !) It might be an idea for people to re-visit that thread to remind themselves of the various arguments and ...

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I just fear that the Miami GP will be an American version of Monaco with the majority of the world's media being more focused on celebs than the actual racing. I can see so many actors and musicians walking on the grid and being unable to answer any motorsport questions they get asked. I hope I'm w...

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Well, a brilliant win for Veekay. Grosjean got stuck behind Bourdais for a while and ended up second, about 5 seconds off the win. Still, a brilliant drive. I think Indy has had 3 first time winners out of 5 races this year!!!!! I hike it was a superb drive by Veekay, Grosjean’ steam coat hun the w...

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, Looks pretty uninspiring to me. The likes of Spa and Portimao and Mugello highlight just how much better racing looks when there are elevation changes to the track, allowing it to follow the bumps and dips of natural terrain. How about before passing judgement we actually sit back and watch the a...

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Just when F1 is allowing us the fun of some classic circuits, we're off to somewhere new that I can't believe many long term fans really care about. I could be wrong! In case you didn't for over 20 years the Grand Prix of Miami was an astronomical annual event that hosted several racing disciplines...

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If Aston Martin are still in F1 in 10 years time and they stick to a 99% green car each year, we'll be saying the same about them at some point. This year the Aston is new and therefore interesting, even if you're not a fan of the green they're using. You can bet your life that if Ferrari went radi...

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I certainly did know the hideous green was last minute.

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The real issue was the Nick was too much of a nice guy and for all his quickness, he lacked the killer instinct and cold blooded selfishness others have within them. On his day he was as quick as anyone, but circumstances had to favor him and his car well in order for him to look supreme. BMW never ...

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As a designer, Ferrari are in dire need of a designer to develop eye catching liveries for their F1 division in particular. A few years back they started heading in the right direction, taking chances with DESIGN and added white, and then black and things seemed to be going down the right path but l...

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Correct. Paddy was not to blame for anything in Williams CONTINUED downward demise. If anything, his track record spoke for itself and is particularly WHY Claire hired him. McLaren and Mercedes did exceedingly well with him there. Mercedes' rise to dominance was started by Ross Brawn, and Toto did a...

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Abiteboul is quite a sharp guy, just not Team Principal material IMPO as has been evident in every top role he's held since arriving in F1. Furthermore, his antics and behavior that ended up with him one-upping Horner and Red Bull when he signed Ricciardo away from them, and the noticeable gratifica...

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I don't know... Whatever is noted on his contract, I just hope he will not be considered as the "second" driver, which is a curse in any team and quite a punishment at RBR. That said, if he doesn't take too long to adapt to the car and if RBR listen to him and treat his side of the garage as Versta...

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It’s crazy that a driver has to raise funds themselves. I don’t know that they aren’t, but teams should make it a joint effort to market and promote any driver they feel they want driving there car.

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Depends on the situation surely? Leclerc is a racing driver who happens to be good looking. He could look like Quasimodo and still be racing for Ferrari. Jorda is where she is because she's very attractive. She wouldn't be a known figure on ability alone. If she looked like Anne Widdecombe I'd be p...

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