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Jenson's Understeer

DFWdude wrote: ↑
Sat May 04, 2024 2:10 pm
The OP choices do not include an option for "Retirement." The guy is 65 years old now, and I can't imagine he wants to work 15+ additional years with any team (per the RB example).

You're right, I didn't, because this is not meant to be a 'what will Newey do next?' thread.

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This is a major movement (or no movement) in the background scene of the driver market for '25. Sainz has supposedly rejected (indirectly) Audi's offer as he hasn't made the decision in the timeline that Audi had given. Soon Audi is expected to announce the second driver. Sainz has taken a gamble i...

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So my vote is for Williams. I know there is a lot of love for the idea of him finally ticking the Ferrari box on his resume, linking up with Lewis and creating a super team, but I don't really want to see him go to any team that's competitive/has been competitive recently. Ferrari could very well to...

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Jenson's Understeer wrote: ↑
Thu May 02, 2024 8:33 pm
Verstappen
Perez
Leclerc
Sainz
Norris
Alonso
Hamilton
Russell
Piastri
Hulkenberg

Amending to:

Verstappen
Norris
Perez
Leclerc
Sainz
Alonso
Piastri
Hamilton
Russell
Hulk

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Jenson's Understeer wrote: ↑
Thu May 02, 2024 8:32 pm
Verstappen
Perez
Leclerc

Banker

Going to change this to Verstappen / Norris / Perez on the strength of McLaren's upgrade.

Jenson's Understeer

1. Verstappen
2. Perez
3. Leclerc
4. Norris
5. Sainz
6. Alonso
7. Piastri
8. Russell
9. Hamilton
10. Hulkenberg

11. Stroll
12. Tsunoda
13. Albon
14. Ricciardo
15. Bottas

16. Magnussen
17. Ocon
18. Gasly
19. Sargeant
20. Zhou

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Verstappen
Leclerc
Norris
Alonso
Hamilton
Ricciardo
Albon
Gasly
Bottas
Hulkenberg

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Verstappen
Perez
Leclerc
Sainz
Norris
Alonso
Hamilton
Russell
Piastri
Hulkenberg

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Verstappen
Perez
Leclerc

Banker

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Why would Verstappen leave? Other than leaving F1 altogether? He is in the best team by far, Ferrari are hopeless with their strategic thinking, McLaren have a solid pairing in Norris and Piastri & while MV would be a step up for the team what would be in it for him, Merc are going backwards now th...

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So now the news is official and Adrian Newey is headed out of Red Bull, apparently with the ability to join a new team as of early 2025, there is going to be plenty of speculation as to where he may end up next. Of course there is no guarantee he'll even join another F1 team, either when he's able t...

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Finally confirmed. Q1 of '25 is interesting though. But the biggest shock for me was finding out that Eddie Jordan is his manager! I think that must be a recent thing. I did a little Googling and the most recent Eddie Jordan/Adrian Newey article link I could find was Eddie regurgitating some of Adr...

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So stepping back but staying involved much as he did a few years ago with the America's Cup yacht. From the press release and various news articles, I read it as he's stepping away from the F1 side of things immediately and just continuing to work on the RB17 project until he leaves the team fully ...

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Well Autosport/Motorsport are reporting Newey has now handed in his resignation and we could get an announcement as soon as this weekend. They're also suggesting he will have to stay in his role (not on gardening leave) until the start of 2025 at the earliest, which seems like it would be a bit awkw...

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Is it really the same if we look to match up the points to where they are today the points would be, 27-18-12-9-6-3, instead we have 25-18-15-12-10-8. I'm afraid it's even worse. If you'd convert that system into today's, you'd get: 1) 36.36 2) 24.24 3) 16.16 4) 12.12 5) 8.08 6) 4.04 7) 0 8) 0 9) 0...

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I doubt it, though it's certainly possible if all Newey cares about is controlling the team. The weak point, in my view, is that this idea requires the basic design of the 2026 car to be as good as finalised before the end of this season. Which in turn means that this year he would be preparing the...

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This is a play by Horner and Newey to get rid of Marco and Verstappen clan. Newey leaves, Vestappens get worried about car development, run to another team. Marco loses his power without Verstappens, retires. Newey come back after a year of sabbatical (sailing around the world/whatever). Horner and...

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Probably it won't happen but if Perez gets dropped from RBR. I wonder if he can join Hulk in Audi. Looking at some stats from their FI time. They both were on par with each other. Hulk faster in qualifying and Perez in races, including some podium which for some reason Hulk could not do. The think ...

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I agree it doesn't make sense to join Mercedes for 2025 but we might be dealing with emotion here, Horner says that Red Bull don't need Newey or Verstappen, Newey leaves followed by Verstappen. I admit, a part of me is going to find it deeply hilarious if Red Bull keeps on winning without either of...

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Of the current grid, we can rule out RB (obvious reasons), Haas (just not going to happen) and Alpine (they wouldn't spend the money needed to get him + he basically almost quit Red Bull because of Renault, so I doubt he goes there). Audi I'm sure would throw money at him but if he's going abroad, i...

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Decent signing for Sauber/Audi. Worst case scenario for them, you'd assume he would be paired with Bottas for 2025 and he's a definite upgrade on Zhou. And if they can get Sainz to join then they're in a much better place on the driver side.

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Better late than never: Japan Results Red Bull: Verstappen wins with 96% of the vote Mercedes: Russell wins with 81% of the vote Ferrari: Sainz wins with 89% of the vote McLaren: Norris wins with 96% of the vote Aston Martin: Alonso wins with 100% of the vote Alpine: Ocon wins with 86% of the vote W...

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BBC reporting it now as well, although that could just be Andrew Benson doing his usual thing of parroting other reports. I reckon he'll go to Aston Martin. The idea of him joining Lewis at Ferrari is fascinating but I find it hard to believe that, at 65 years old, he's going to up sticks and move t...

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No write up/Japan results yet as I'm currently on holiday and, while I have the time to do those, the forum isn't working brilliantly here. Keeps randomly logging me out when I go to post things so I don't fancy that happening with the results! I'll either post an update later in the the replies or ...

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Verstappen
Leclerc
Sainz
Perez
Alonso
Norris
Russell
Hamilton
Tsunoda

Stroll
Hulkenberg
Ricciardo
Albon
Bottas

Magnussen
Ocon
Gasly
Sargeant
Zhou

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Verstappen
Perez
Leclerc

Jenson's Understeer

Verstappen
Leclerc
Norris
Alonso
Hamilton
Albon
Ocon
Tsunoda
Hulkenberg
Bottas

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Verstappen
Perez
Leclerc
Sainz
Alonso
Norris
Hamilton
Russell
Piastri
Stroll

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Well seeing as it is Wrestlemania weekend, let me start by stealing a quote from ten years ago: the streak... is over! That's right, after 24 successive TMW wins for Alex Albon - the longest consecutive run we've seen in these polls - Logan Sargeant has finally picked up his first TMW victory. It w...

Jenson's Understeer

Verstappen
Leclerc
Russell
Norris
Alonso
Tsunoda
Ocon
Bottas
Hulkenberg
Albon

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1. Verstappen
2. Leclerc
3. Sainz
4. Norris
5. Perez
6. Piastri
7. Alonso
8. Russell
9. Hamilton
10. Tsunoda

11. Stroll
12. Hulkenberg
13. Magnussen
14. Albon
15. Ricciardo

16. Bottas
17. Sargeant
18. Zhou
19. Ocon
20. Gasly

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Feels like the toughest race to predict so far.

1. Verstappen
2. Leclerc
3. Norris
4. Sainz
5. Perez
6. Piastri
7. Alonso
8. Russell
9. Hamilton
10. Stroll

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Verstappen
Leclerc
Norris

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Read some news about Vettel potentially being in the running to replace Lewis. I hope that is untrue; he was past it by 2018 and the subsequent time at Aston Martin was already an embarrassment. Stroll should not be getting anywhere as close to a top-level driver as he did when partnered with Vette...

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Looks like Audi aren't messing about, the rumour is that they have given Sainz just 2 to 3 weeks to make a decision, they already have the Hulk signed up. I can't see Sainz making such an early commitment to at best a midfield team, presently a back marker team, when there are seats available at Re...

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In terms of burnt bridges it will be interested to see what happens in 2026 when Aston Martin get Honda engines. I would be amazed if Alonso is still there come 2026. Clearly he's eyeing the Mercedes seat as a way out for 2025, and if Red Bull did drop Perez (or even had to replace Max) then you kn...

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So, Magnussen beats Hülkenberg in qualifying but falls behind him in the race because Hülkenberg pitted under VSC. Magnussen goes on to finish one place behind him. But Hülkenberg easily wins the TMW - okay ... ? I think that's probably a case of people not knowing that happened. :thumbup: ... and ...

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Brundle rightly believes that Alonso's antic on Russell which caused damage to his Mercedes car & put him at risk as well, has burnt a bridge he was trying to make to Mercedes for the 2nd seat. Surely not another bridge burnt. Can't burn a bridge any worse than 2021 as a whole, much less the finale...

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So just on the topic of including Williams in the vote, I did consider omitting them. Had the cause of Albon's accident been something out of his control, i.e. he hit a loose drain and destroyed the chassis that way, then I may actually have done so. But ultimately, irrespective of the fact this all...

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I've just read on F1insider that Alonso "will" be Verstappen's teammate in 2025. https://f1-insider.com/formel-1-horner-will-alonso-red-bull-62663/ I'm afraid that would be about 10 years late to be genuinely interesting . I have no doubts about who would come out on top in the present day, and I d...

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