Infidelity wrote:Am I the only one whom finds these graphs frustrating to read and near pointless for assessing race performance?
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- Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:44 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Monaco - Fastest Laps Averaged over Race Distance Graph
- Replies: 34
- Views: 7481
Re: Monaco - Fastest Laps Averaged over Race Distance Graph
- Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:38 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Mercedes a lock for the front row in Canada
- Replies: 41
- Views: 9778
Re: Mercedes a lock for the front row in Canada
We've had 6 races and we're still attempting to make predictions :lol: :lol: It cannot be done. Nearly everyone said a Hamilton pole and win in monaco but that didn't happen. The only thing that it's safe to say is not to rule anyone out I think we can safely rule out HRT, Maruissa and Caterham for...
- Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:09 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Where is Super Seb?
- Replies: 341
- Views: 62951
Re: Where is Super Seb?
I don't know about "Super Seb" but Vettel is clearly better than Webber. One driver doesn't beat the other 3 years in a row unless he is clearly better. 2010 was very close but the other two years were not. The difference is not big but its clearly there. The difference is there. BUT is it skill or...
- Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:27 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Where is Super Seb?
- Replies: 341
- Views: 62951
Re: Where is Super Seb?
I don't know about "Super Seb" but Vettel is clearly better than Webber. One driver doesn't beat the other 3 years in a row unless he is clearly better. 2010 was very close but the other two years were not. The difference is not big but its clearly there. The difference is there. BUT is it skill or...
- Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:03 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Canada - first double GP winner?
- Replies: 41
- Views: 8715
Re: Canada - first double GP winner?
Karthikeyan wins in ValenciaNxet_DK wrote:Its has been a very interesting season, but if Karthekeyan is going to win the Canadian GP, I would have a stroke. Although it would really spice things up.Canadian Stig wrote:Karthekeyan
de la Rosa wins in India
you heard it here first.
- Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:42 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Where is Super Seb?
- Replies: 341
- Views: 62951
Re: Where is Super Seb?
It continues to baffle me the double standard and other selective shopping in facts people display on this forum, and still dare call other people fanboys. They say Vettel is just fortunate to become the no.1 driver in the fastest car, yet are never short of praising Hamilton. DOUBLE STANDARD Vettel...
- Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:47 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Drivers best races they didn't win!
- Replies: 82
- Views: 15168
Re: Drivers best races they didn't win!
Of the ones not yet mentioned. Highlighted are impressive races not won: Fernando Alonso - 2005 Australian Grand Prix: if he hadn't started from p13 due to rain in qualifying, he would have won the race. Giancarlo Fisichella - 1999 European Grand Prix: would have won it, if not for spinning off. Lew...
- Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:13 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Canada - first double GP winner?
- Replies: 41
- Views: 8715
Re: Canada - first double GP winner?
Question will be, who will kiss the wall of champions? 3 champions have won so far, 3 haven't.
I'd say Hamilton and Schumacher have the best chances.
I'd say Hamilton and Schumacher have the best chances.
- Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:09 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Experience: No favourite driver.
- Replies: 41
- Views: 8871
Re: Experience: No favourite driver.
Grew up as a big fan of der Schumeister (first few years, when really young, I just liked seeing them as fast cars), but probably in '99, I started to appreciate F1 on a more broader spectrum, and let me tell you, it is great for so many reasons. It's sad to see how some people let their hatred for ...
- Sun May 27, 2012 10:17 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 8th in 8?
- Replies: 105
- Views: 22116
Re: 7th in 7?
Car Number 7, driven by a 7x WDC and a 7x Canadian Grand Prix winner, winning the 7th grand prix of the season, making it 7 different winners out of 7.
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*runs to bookie*
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*runs to bookie*
- Sun May 27, 2012 8:51 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Where is Super Seb?
- Replies: 341
- Views: 62951
Re: Where is Super Seb?
hell, i hate Raikkonen, but even i put him above Vettel As if that meant something. The last two years clearly have shown that the only time Webber has a slight chance against Vettel is when Seb has done the wrong move in set up work. It's allowed to dream but I think at the end of the season Vette...
- Sun May 27, 2012 8:25 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: 8th in 8?
- Replies: 105
- Views: 22116
Re: 7th in 7?
how about the 7-times world champion?
- Sun May 27, 2012 8:12 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
- Replies: 82
- Views: 18189
Re: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
EVERY thread about Vettel, you barge in belittling EVERY single thing he does. And only Vettel is CONSTANLTLY attacked by you. You apply a double standard to drivers like it's nobody's business. Just look at this instance; you don't go around hating on Di Resta or any of the other who cut the corne...
- Sun May 27, 2012 8:08 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
- Replies: 82
- Views: 18189
Re: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
EVERY thread about Vettel, you barge in belittling EVERY single thing he does. And only Vettel is CONSTANLTLY attacked by you. You apply a double standard to drivers like it's nobody's business. Just look at this instance; you don't go around hating on Di Resta or any of the other who cut the corne...
- Sun May 27, 2012 8:02 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
- Replies: 82
- Views: 18189
Re: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
well what ever you think. I think the Pit lane Route is the quicker route bearing mind the first corner is the sharper turn. Meaning it takes longer to get the wheels straight to get the power on. AND I reckon Vettel got an advantage from going off track. There are people that reckon we've never be...
- Sun May 27, 2012 7:37 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
- Replies: 82
- Views: 18189
Re: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
well what ever you think. I think the Pit lane Route is the quicker route bearing mind the first corner is the sharper turn. Meaning it takes longer to get the wheels straight to get the power on. AND I reckon Vettel got an advantage from going off track. There are people that reckon we've never be...
- Sun May 27, 2012 7:11 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Webber helped Vettel to p4?
- Replies: 44
- Views: 10376
Re: Webber helped Vettel to p4?
One (Webber) doesn't hold up cars by being 2 seconds ahead of them. When Vettel pitted and Webber was racing for the win, he was just as close in lap times to the rest as when he was behind Vettel. Maybe you would enjoy Formula One more if you took off the tinfoil hat. :lol: very funny but even Bru...
- Sun May 27, 2012 6:27 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Kovalainen
- Replies: 96
- Views: 29510
Re: Kovalainen
When I saw him holding off Button, I thought how it must have felt sweet for him to be in front of the guy that 'took his seat'.
- Sun May 27, 2012 6:20 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
- Replies: 82
- Views: 18189
Re: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
We actually already knew that anyway, since the stewards looked into it and cleared everyone, but as you know, hater's gonna hate, so he needs to find some bizar reason to blame the stewards for bias. You are right, but don't label people haters, just because they don't agree with us. I label hater...
- Sun May 27, 2012 6:17 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
- Replies: 82
- Views: 18189
Re: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
Yes he had to cut the track. Not once I have denied that. But are you allowed to gain an advantage from cutting the track? It's a yes or no. Apparently yes. It wasn't simple 1 vs 1 fight, but big accident with cars all over the corner. We actually already knew that anyway, since the stewards looked...
- Sun May 27, 2012 6:13 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
- Replies: 82
- Views: 18189
Re: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
£10 he's gonna return with an onboard shot from Kimi from the start, where he is ahead of Vettel, and then somehow turn that into the explanation how Kimi was ahead. Or maybe something with aliens... Yes, aliens! Place your bets!
- Sun May 27, 2012 6:06 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
- Replies: 82
- Views: 18189
Re: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
It's not out of context. Or you just don't want to answer. Too difficult? He had to cut the track, because it was impossible to move. Had Grosjean not been all over the track, Vettel would have started braking into T1 a full car-length ahead of Räikkönen. Rocket science, it is not. Though then agai...
- Sun May 27, 2012 5:59 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
- Replies: 82
- Views: 18189
Re: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
It's not out of context. Or you just don't want to answer. Too difficult? He had to cut the track, because it was impossible to move. Had Grosjean not been all over the track, Vettel would have started braking into T1 a full car-length ahead of Räikkönen. Rocket science, it is not. Though then agai...
- Sun May 27, 2012 5:57 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
- Replies: 82
- Views: 18189
Re: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
The moment Vettel turned right, clearly very far ahead of Kimi: http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/7086/f12012monacostartvettel.jpg If you see the front view btw, you see it would be impossible for Vettel to go around Grosjean's left-side, as the Lotus was completely sideways and Vettel was to Gros...
- Sun May 27, 2012 5:54 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Red Bull Racing
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2303
Re: Red Bull Racing
I actually see it as quite a poor execution of strategy, if they'd have done as Brundle said and gotten Webber to slow the pack down by another 5 seconds so Vettel could come out in the lead, then switched the drivers, they could have had a 1-2. They made a good move putting Vettel on the primes to...
- Sun May 27, 2012 5:49 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
- Replies: 82
- Views: 18189
Re: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
The moment Vettel turned right, clearly very far ahead of Kimi: http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/7086/f12012monacostartvettel.jpg If you see the front view btw, you see it would be impossible for Vettel to go around Grosjean's left-side, as the Lotus was completely sideways and Vettel was to Grosj...
- Sun May 27, 2012 5:09 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Where is Super Seb?
- Replies: 341
- Views: 62951
Re: Where is Super Seb?
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7086/f12012monacostartvettel.jpg Webber Rosberg Hamilton Massa Alonso Vettel Räikkonen Again if yo go to the part where they split Kimi is back alongside. IF they both used the track there is a chance Kimi would have came out in front. Also again not only is it abou...
- Sun May 27, 2012 5:00 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Where is Super Seb?
- Replies: 341
- Views: 62951
Re: Where is Super Seb?
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7086/f12012monacostartvettel.jpg Webber Rosberg Hamilton Massa Alonso Vettel Räikkonen Again if yo go to the part where they split Kimi is back alongside. IF they both used the track there is a chance Kimi would have came out in front. Also again not only is it abou...
- Sun May 27, 2012 4:55 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Did Ferrari cost Massa 4th place?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 7521
Re: Did Ferrari cost Massa 4th place?
Staying out actually put him closer to Vettel. The longer the front drivers were on softs, the longer they were pulling away/not losing to Vettel. Just look at what happened with the first laps on the softs, when Vettel was pulling away. That gap would have been even greater if Webber/Rosberg -> Mas...
- Sun May 27, 2012 4:53 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
- Replies: 82
- Views: 18189
Re: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
I'd really like to know if anyone here actually thinks there's an argument for Vettel getting a penalty...? The *only place* he could go to avoid a car that was out of control and on a course to wipe him out was on the inside of the turn 1 curb. Add to the fact that he didn't gain any positions. It...
- Sun May 27, 2012 4:50 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Where is Super Seb?
- Replies: 341
- Views: 62951
Re: Where is Super Seb?
- Webber
- Rosberg
- Hamilton
- Massa
- Alonso
- Vettel
- Räikkonen
- Sun May 27, 2012 4:48 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Webber helped Vettel to p4?
- Replies: 44
- Views: 10376
Re: Webber helped Vettel to p4?
One (Webber) doesn't hold up cars by being 2 seconds ahead of them.
When Vettel pitted and Webber was racing for the win, he was just as close in lap times to the rest as when he was behind Vettel.
Maybe you would enjoy Formula One more if you took off the tinfoil hat.
When Vettel pitted and Webber was racing for the win, he was just as close in lap times to the rest as when he was behind Vettel.
Maybe you would enjoy Formula One more if you took off the tinfoil hat.
- Sun May 27, 2012 4:45 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
- Replies: 82
- Views: 18189
Re: Vettel cutting the corner at the start
- Webber
- Rosberg
- Hamilton
- Massa
- Alonso
- Vettel
- Räikkonen
- Sun May 27, 2012 2:19 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Where is Super Seb?
- Replies: 341
- Views: 62951
Re: Where is Super Seb?
Red Bull were too focused on Seb that race. They were almost playing Mark as a pawn in getting Seb points. That was not good, Webber out drove him all weekend. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Tinfoilhatdom.jpg/220px-Tinfoilhatdom.jpg I hope you ironed it for the special occ...
- Sun May 27, 2012 2:08 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Where is Super Seb?
- Replies: 341
- Views: 62951
Re: Where is Super Seb?
Unfortunately for some people their only joy in watching Formula One is being all angsty and hating on drivers they don't support. Unfortunately for the real fans, that enjoy watching the best drivers in the world, they spout their hate on the internet.
- Sun May 27, 2012 12:04 pm
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Vettel to Ferrari
- Replies: 15
- Views: 4793
Re: Vettel to Ferrari
Karthikeyan for Ferrari #2!MaGiK wrote:Its like each week different driver is linked with Ferrari
- Sun May 27, 2012 11:44 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Vettel gotten worse or Webber gotten better?
- Replies: 37
- Views: 7165
Re: Vettel gotten worse or Webber gotten better?
What's happening in Monaco with Webber is just like Rosberg and Maldonado: a good driver getting it right on their day. Over the entire year, Webber has upped his game to the level we've come to know of him. Vettel is doing things differently though; he's taking a much more tactical approach to the ...
- Sun May 27, 2012 11:35 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: Where was this Mark Webber last year?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 6353
Re: Where was this Mark Webber last year?
Not absolutely sure about the influence of EBD in terms of Mark-vs-Seb in 2011 but there was an article written on how Seb was so good at managing the tyres both in quali and race trim. MArk, by hs own admission, took some time to get to grips (no pun intended) with them. As mentioned in this threa...
- Sun May 27, 2012 11:32 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: BBC pre-show, priceless
- Replies: 33
- Views: 12399
BBC pre-show, priceless
Jenson is pitreporter, with Lewis giving him instructions in the studio. Jenson to Mark (Webber): "so what's it like, working with the best driver in Formula One?" *DC steps back* *Mark completely speachless, with the most priceless look on his face* Mark: "I haven't, I haven't, I haven't worked wit...
- Sun May 27, 2012 7:30 am
- Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
- Topic: This video deserves more views
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2765
This video deserves more views
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amazing job done there!
amazing job done there!