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by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:48 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision
Replies: 494
Views: 16529

Re: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QJTAVnaLRI Have a look at this incident from Portugal practise. Then read Horners comments on the incident. "And then obviously, Lance, for whatever reason. hasn't seen him. And he's committed to the corner and he's turned in. So I think one was expecting the other ...
by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:56 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 198
Views: 10817

Re: Silly Season 2022

One is a guarantee the other is not, how can you judge that Williams make such good progress with the car, the driver they replace Latifi with is probably going to be worse than Russell who thus far in two and a half seasons for the team has scored zero points. Yeah, obviously it's a gamble right. ...
by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:54 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 41
Views: 1692

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

In the third best car, how was that a WDC capable car and only in the hunt due to McLaren/Mercedes mess ups, he won only one race because of the pit lane collision between Hamilton and Kimi, he was out of contention in the last third of the season. In 2014 Ricciardo had the 2nd/3rd best car and won...
by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 26, 2021 3:51 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Formula E
Replies: 6
Views: 102

Re: Formula E

I've watched FE from the start but this has been the toughest season to enjoy and I did kind of give up a few races ago but came back to watch London. It just feels more like an exercise in correctly negotiating procedural bureaucracy than racing. One tiny error by the team receives a penalty so sev...
by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:30 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 198
Views: 10817

Re: Silly Season 2022

I still don't see any team being happy to throw away money sorting out contract disputes. Depends how much money. How much does a team like Williams gain from going from say 8th to 6th in the WCC? One is a guarantee the other is not, how can you judge that Williams make such good progress with the ...
by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:48 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 198
Views: 10817

Re: Silly Season 2022

Then no contract is actually valid in respect to this thread if the teams are happy to incur financial loss or pay drivers not to race. A few weeks back I recollect the owner of William's team saying as of now their finances are in good shape & for them now having 2 good drivers is the priority. I ...
by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:39 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision
Replies: 494
Views: 16529

Re: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision

To be fair to Masi he was new to the job and perhaps finding his feet, I think he is now finding a better way were stewards decisions can be more consistent, with the Austria 2019 incident it was an obvious cop out for political reasons, at the time to find Leclerc partly responsible was ridiculous...
by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:38 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision
Replies: 494
Views: 16529

Re: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision

I think that potentially should be the case. Unfortunately we have seen a lot of precedents in corners such as that which suggest you don't get penalised for shoving someone off the track on the outside. That being said Rosberg did get penalised for doing something like that against Hamilton in tha...
by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:35 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 41
Views: 1692

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

I've thought of one Robert Kubica but I guess his career got cut short so he might have, greatest ever driver never to have perhaps has poor timing given his performance thus far this season, his stock has dropped, Ricciardo is starting to look like a busted flush, any route to a title contending c...
by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:30 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 198
Views: 10817

Re: Silly Season 2022

I believe that Gasly and Latifi have contracts. I think Gasly's contract was only for 2021, but with the very obvious caveat that Red Bull will have the option to extend it into 2022 if they wish. Latifi's contract was reported to be three years, so until the end of 2022. But I think it's safe to s...
by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:36 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision
Replies: 494
Views: 16529

Re: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision

So in this incident (Leclerc/Verstappen in Austria 2019), had Leclerc simply turned into the corner and headed on a line that took him a car's width from the apex, Verstappen would have been entirely to blame for the inevitable resulting contact? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABKY6nbKIL4 I think ...
by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:12 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision
Replies: 494
Views: 16529

Re: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision

So in this incident (Leclerc/Verstappen in Austria 2019), had Leclerc simply turned into the corner and headed on a line that took him a car's width from the apex, Verstappen would have been entirely to blame for the inevitable resulting contact? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABKY6nbKIL4 I think ...
by mikeyg123
Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:51 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 41
Views: 1692

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

In the third best car, how was that a WDC capable car and only in the hunt due to McLaren/Mercedes mess ups, he won only one race because of the pit lane collision between Hamilton and Kimi, he was out of contention in the last third of the season. In 2014 Ricciardo had the 2nd/3rd best car and won...
by mikeyg123
Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:54 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 41
Views: 1692

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

I've thought of one Robert Kubica but I guess his career got cut short so he might have, greatest ever driver never to have perhaps has poor timing given his performance thus far this season, his stock has dropped, Ricciardo is starting to look like a busted flush, any route to a title contending c...
by mikeyg123
Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:16 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 41
Views: 1692

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

The lifeline for Ricciardo is a totally new car for next year because he's clearly struggling with the car presently, to say the greatest driver never to make a title run with the limitations that he has, I'm not so sure. Who do you think it would be, then? Bear in mind that mikeyg123 said he would...
by mikeyg123
Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:23 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 41
Views: 1692

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

The lifeline for Ricciardo is a totally new car for next year because he's clearly struggling with the car presently, to say the greatest driver never to make a title run with the limitations that he has, I'm not so sure. Who do you think it would be, then? Bear in mind that mikeyg123 said he would...
by mikeyg123
Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:35 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 41
Views: 1692

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

Ricciardo is taking a colossal beating like Vettel did last year, Vettel was seen as one of the top guys after 2019 and fell out of the top 10 the year after, Ricciardo presently can't be seen as a top 10 driver, Norris will be probably get rated at #5 if it stays like this and Ricciardo is 3 tenth...
by mikeyg123
Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:18 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision
Replies: 494
Views: 16529

Re: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision

This thread has turned into a hyperbole see-saw. Such extreme views on both sides. The truth resides somewhere near the middle. :thumbup: Yep, and let's not forget the stewards saw fit to share blame (predominately Hamilton, but not entirely). Both drivers contributed to the incident, both could ha...
by mikeyg123
Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:46 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision
Replies: 494
Views: 16529

Re: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision

That would be were Hamilton as the car in front went wide in order to avoid the collision. Yes but Hamilton made the decision to avoid contact to fight another day. However, Hamilton was hot headed at Silverstone and couldn't keep his line. Needs to take this one on the chin, he messed up and Verst...
by mikeyg123
Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:43 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Mercedes vs Red Bull - 2021
Replies: 654
Views: 33156

Re: Mercedes vs Red Bull - 2021

Out of interest if you don't mind. What does the Max/Sainz/Lando equation give you? That chain suggests that Verstappen and Norris are equal, although Verstappen was only 17 at the time. Anyway, I don’t expect Perez to get any closer to Verstappen with time because I truly believe that this is the ...
by mikeyg123
Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:13 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 198
Views: 10817

Re: Silly Season 2022

Yeah you are right. I am still confident that it will make them weaker rather than Stronger. I think Merc probably know that as well, which makes it a tough call, but it's fair that it would certainly be more entertaining. At the same time, it's a seasons pain for a lot of gain for Merc. Finding ou...
by mikeyg123
Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:44 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 198
Views: 10817

Re: Silly Season 2022

Good points. If it's possible to extract him from his Merc contract would Russell take a Red Bull drive in 2022 or would he wait for Merc to see if they came back in 2023. On one hand the Merc drive is the better option. On the other there is no guarantee Merc won't pass on him again. RB are a 1 dr...
by mikeyg123
Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:18 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 198
Views: 10817

Re: Silly Season 2022

Russell to Red Bull Perez to Williams Ticktum replaces Latiffi Bottas stays at Mercedes Latifi is 2 years into a 3 year contract. :lol: :lol: :lol: That's the bit that won't happen. Mazeoin and Latiffi should get together and start a new team named "Billionaire". Yeah that would leave more room for...
by mikeyg123
Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:17 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 41
Views: 1692

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

After 2014, Daniel Ricciardo was regarded as one of the top 2-3 drivers and was held in high regard atleast for a few years.. But the arrival of Max spelt the beginning of hid downfall..By the second year he was clearly in shade of Max..After that he has never really looked top tier material and no...
by mikeyg123
Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:52 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 British Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 490
Views: 15559

Re: 2021 British Grand Prix Race Thread

So which set of fans would post racist abuse towards Lewis Hamilton then I wonder? . If ever you wanted to motivate someone that would be the way, I'd suggest. My thought was that it was Hamilton drawing a line in the sand. Surprised at the whinging and suggestions of a race ban by RB and others. V...
by mikeyg123
Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:02 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 198
Views: 10817

Re: Silly Season 2022

pokerman wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:44 am
mikeyg123 wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:09 pm
Russell to Red Bull

Perez to Williams

Ticktum replaces Latiffi

Bottas stays at Mercedes
Latifi is 2 years into a 3 year contract.
:lol: :lol: :lol: That's the bit that won't happen.

Mazeoin and Latiffi should get together and start a new team named "Billionaire".
by mikeyg123
Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:44 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision
Replies: 494
Views: 16529

Re: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision

That's the thing though Max can never be submissive but it's alright for Hamilton to be submissive time after time, you have 2 Max's racing against one another, how many races do they both finish, I'm guessing not many. Hamilton had every right not to back out the next time he got squeezed by Verst...
by mikeyg123
Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:41 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision
Replies: 494
Views: 16529

Re: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision

I have no qualms about calling Hamilton or any other driver out on their mistakes whenever they make them, but I can't recall the last time Hamilton made contact with another driver outside of Rosberg in Spain 2016 (...) Alex Albon would like a word! You're absolutely correct but those incidents we...
by mikeyg123
Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:39 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 198
Views: 10817

Re: Silly Season 2022

Good points. If it's possible to extract him from his Merc contract would Russell take a Red Bull drive in 2022 or would he wait for Merc to see if they came back in 2023.

On one hand the Merc drive is the better option. On the other there is no guarantee Merc won't pass on him again.
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:46 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 198
Views: 10817

Re: Silly Season 2022

Russell to Red Bull A possibility, if Mercedes fails to offer him a seat at the big team again. I'm sure he doesn't have infinite patience. An interesting question? If one had similar offers on the table for 2022 from Red Bull and Mercedes which one would one take? I'm not saying that's relevant to...
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:09 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 198
Views: 10817

Re: Silly Season 2022

Russell to Red Bull

Perez to Williams

Ticktum replaces Latiffi

Bottas stays at Mercedes
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:27 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision
Replies: 494
Views: 16529

Re: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision

I don't think anyone expects an apology from Horner or Marko. Everyone knows the sort of people they are. But once brandishing someone a 'dirty driver' you can't use the excuse of in the heat of the moment after the moment has passed. You either stick with what you said it don't. But if you're stic...
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:01 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision
Replies: 494
Views: 16529

Re: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision

Seems odd to expect an apology from a man who said causing a high speed accident that necessitated a trip to hospital could result in bad consequences but not expect an apology from the guy who (according to the sports authorities) caused the high speed accident. I don't think anyone expects an apo...
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:01 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision
Replies: 494
Views: 16529

Re: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision

I do understand why Horner and co are upset. It's a pressured situation, their guy had a big crash, they lost an opportunity to score a bunch of points, and Red Bull historically do tend to make a lot of noise whenever they feel hard done by. ...but all the name calling and accusations were still b...
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:00 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision
Replies: 494
Views: 16529

Re: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision

Seems odd to expect an apology from a man who said causing a high speed accident that necessitated a trip to hospital could result in bad consequences but not expect an apology from the guy who (according to the sports authorities) caused the high speed accident. I don't think anyone expects an apo...
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:58 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision
Replies: 494
Views: 16529

Re: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision

Seems odd to expect an apology from a man who said causing a high speed accident that necessitated a trip to hospital could result in bad consequences but not expect an apology from the guy who (according to the sports authorities) caused the high speed accident. I don't think anyone expects an apo...
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:44 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision
Replies: 494
Views: 16529

Re: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision

Seems odd to expect an apology from a man who said causing a high speed accident that necessitated a trip to hospital could result in bad consequences but not expect an apology from the guy who (according to the sports authorities) caused the high speed accident.
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:26 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision
Replies: 494
Views: 16529

Re: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision

The thing about heat of the moment comments is that you get to retract them later on when no longer heat of the moment. Red Bull have doubled down on them by hiring a lawyer. Sure, but Horner didn't actually say anything extreme. The only thing wrong really is the bollocks about Hamilton "hanging a...
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:23 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: How will Max and Lewis race each other for the rest of the season?
Replies: 114
Views: 3962

Re: How will Max and Lewis race each other for the rest of the season?

Joe Saward's take: The key question beyond all the yapping and griping is whether Max will do the same again if the circumstances occur, or whether he will have learned that Lewis is not going to be shoved out of the way. A line was drawn in the sand, if you like… If Max does not take that onboard,...
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:21 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision
Replies: 494
Views: 16529

Re: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision

Is it so unreasonable to think that senior figures in the sport (like Horner and Marko) throwing around some pretty extreme language and accusations could trigger worse abuse as a follow up? As a reminder, Horner/Marko's language included calling Lewis "amateur", "desperate", "dangerous", "disrespe...