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by mikeyg123
Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:49 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 75
Views: 3567

Re: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

JN23 wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:41 am
Just listening to the BBC chequered flag podcast. Andrew Benson says there’s one leading driver (unnamed) who thinks Verstappen will take Hamilton out if given the chance this weekend.
With Hamilton looking likely for pole, if Max can squeeze into P2 I think turn 1 could be very interesting.
by mikeyg123
Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:45 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton/Verstappen British GP 2021 Collision Discussion
Replies: 656
Views: 24197

Re: Hamilton/Verstappen British GP 2021 Collision Discussion

Yeah. The incident was a racing incident where the blame was tilted towards Hamilton - absolutely nothing more. Red Bull are whining far too much - they've been unlucky that them and their driver came off far worse but..... it is Formula 1 - these things will inevitably happen, next time it might b...
by mikeyg123
Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:11 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton/Verstappen British GP 2021 Collision Discussion
Replies: 656
Views: 24197

Re: Hamilton/Verstappen British GP 2021 Collision Discussion

Yeah. The incident was a racing incident where the blame was tilted towards Hamilton - absolutely nothing more. Red Bull are whining far too much - they've been unlucky that them and their driver came off far worse but..... it is Formula 1 - these things will inevitably happen, next time it might b...
by mikeyg123
Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:45 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: How will Max and Lewis race each other for the rest of the season?
Replies: 137
Views: 5137

Re: How will Max and Lewis race each other for the rest of the season?

I think its just hamilton following through and ensuring max understands hell continue to be as aggressive and isnt going to change just because there was contact Sure, but he broke the rules. He can't keep the same approach if he keeps getting penalties. He broke no rules, you keep repeating this ...
by mikeyg123
Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:08 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: How will Max and Lewis race each other for the rest of the season?
Replies: 137
Views: 5137

Re: How will Max and Lewis race each other for the rest of the season?

Did he break the rules, though? He made a mistake, but I don't think he broke any rules aside from the result of the mistake. I think Hamilton is saying he'd go for the move again given the same chance, and just hope to do it better next time. Fair point. He needs to clean up in that case or he'll ...
by mikeyg123
Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:09 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton/Verstappen British GP 2021 Collision Discussion
Replies: 656
Views: 24197

Re: Hamilton/Verstappen British GP 2021 Collision Discussion

Mercedes themselves report from the GPS data that Verstappen was going 1kmph faster into Corpse than his fastest lap in qualifying, despite running 100kg of fuel and on cold and harder tyres and on a tighter line. So it seems neither would make the corner. Verstappen was taking a wider line than no...
by mikeyg123
Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:16 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: How will Max and Lewis race each other for the rest of the season?
Replies: 137
Views: 5137

Re: How will Max and Lewis race each other for the rest of the season?

I think its just hamilton following through and ensuring max understands hell continue to be as aggressive and isnt going to change just because there was contact Sure, but he broke the rules. He can't keep the same approach if he keeps getting penalties. Yes i agree i find it just as likely max co...
by mikeyg123
Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:57 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: How will Max and Lewis race each other for the rest of the season?
Replies: 137
Views: 5137

Re: How will Max and Lewis race each other for the rest of the season?

Did he break the rules, though? He made a mistake, but I don't think he broke any rules aside from the result of the mistake. I think Hamilton is saying he'd go for the move again given the same chance, and just hope to do it better next time. Fair point. He needs to clean up in that case or he'll ...
by mikeyg123
Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:55 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 219
Views: 12254

Re: Silly Season 2022

You seem to be guaranteeing Williams a much better car for next season for that to happen, you have more confidence than Williams perhaps? Literally put IF in the second sentence. To be honest if you make a habit of only reading the first sentence of my posts that explains an awful lot. I'm not sur...
by mikeyg123
Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:27 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: How will Max and Lewis race each other for the rest of the season?
Replies: 137
Views: 5137

Re: How will Max and Lewis race each other for the rest of the season?

Hamilton saying hes reviewed the incident and wouldnt change a single thing about his approach. I read it as, if i went back in time id do the same again. If he intends to keep breaking the rules I hope the stewards will have a word with him. Deliberately breaking the rules is cheating after all. D...
by mikeyg123
Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:50 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: How will Max and Lewis race each other for the rest of the season?
Replies: 137
Views: 5137

Re: How will Max and Lewis race each other for the rest of the season?

Hamilton saying hes reviewed the incident and wouldnt change a single thing about his approach. I read it as, if i went back in time id do the same again. If he intends to keep breaking the rules I hope the stewards will have a word with him. Deliberately breaking the rules is cheating after all. D...
by mikeyg123
Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:56 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: How will Max and Lewis race each other for the rest of the season?
Replies: 137
Views: 5137

Re: How will Max and Lewis race each other for the rest of the season?

Yeboah24 wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:17 am
Hamilton saying hes reviewed the incident and wouldnt change a single thing about his approach. I read it as, if i went back in time id do the same again.
If he intends to keep breaking the rules I hope the stewards will have a word with him. Deliberately breaking the rules is cheating after all.
by mikeyg123
Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:36 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 219
Views: 12254

Re: Silly Season 2022

The thing is if Williams as a team are more financially capable of competing in years to come, it negates the need for Latifi then. Getting two good drivers would atleast enable them to dream of a higher WCC standing. Exactly. Williams could end up in a very tight midfield battle next season after ...
by mikeyg123
Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:01 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 219
Views: 12254

Re: Silly Season 2022

Honestly you are both right. Yes, most teams are not going to pay a driver out of his contract. But, if you were to expect this from any team/drivers next season the situation for latifi makes this a reasonable bet. The one thing in his favor, other than the contract, is that Williams may decide th...
by mikeyg123
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:48 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 219
Views: 12254

Re: Silly Season 2022

Through results which can't be guaranteed given what is perceived as a top driver, Russell, has scored zero points for the team thus far, how would I presume two inferior drivers do better than Russell and thus bring extra money to the team, more money than what Latifi can guarantee, also let's not...
by mikeyg123
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 75
Views: 3567

Re: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

60% chance of rain. Hopefully we get a spicy rain. The more rain the better otherwise I see Max as the favourite. I'd still see Max as the favourite ;) :o Well if he can help to damage Hamilton's car again like in the last wet race at Imola then I'm sure that would help, even then Max had to pit ra...
by mikeyg123
Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:50 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 75
Views: 3567

Re: 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

pokerman wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:59 pm
Schermerhorn wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:42 pm
60% chance of rain.

Hopefully we get a spicy rain.
The more rain the better otherwise I see Max as the favourite.
Max will still be the favourite as long as the car is as good or better.
by mikeyg123
Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:04 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton/Verstappen British GP 2021 Collision Discussion
Replies: 656
Views: 24197

Re: Hamilton/Verstappen British GP 2021 Collision Discussion

With such a ridiculous bit of action from Red Bull they really should have faced some sort of action like you would in other sports. Just a fine of sorts that would go in to youth level racing. Otherwise everyone may as well appeal everything and waste everyone's time. Red Bull didn't appeal. All t...
by mikeyg123
Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:11 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton/Verstappen British GP 2021 Collision Discussion
Replies: 656
Views: 24197

Re: Hamilton/Verstappen British GP 2021 Collision Discussion

With such a ridiculous bit of action from Red Bull they really should have faced some sort of action like you would in other sports. Just a fine of sorts that would go in to youth level racing. Otherwise everyone may as well appeal everything and waste everyone's time. Red Bull didn't appeal. All t...
by mikeyg123
Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:57 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 219
Views: 12254

Re: Silly Season 2022

I never said two Latifi level drivers I expect one driver to be decent, I responded to what I believe was said that two decent drivers would be better than keeping Latifi in order to raise the profile of the team. The team may have a higher share price with two decent level drivers than a decent le...
by mikeyg123
Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:54 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 85
Views: 3481

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

During the last ten/twelve years how many drivers got a "championship contending car" ? Some happy years four, or else only two. If you don't take into account the obvious subservient n° 2 drivers, it reduces the number to 1 or 2. Such is the state of F1 that I wouldn't bet on any of the current "b...
by mikeyg123
Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:54 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 85
Views: 3481

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

No I'm saying that if Kubica's car counts then so should Ricciardo's car, I think it's unfair that Kubica should be discounted because he himself was able to make the difference whilst Ricciardo couldn't. I've the shown the numbers on how Kubica's car shouldn't be considered in itself as being a ti...
by mikeyg123
Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:53 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton/Verstappen British GP 2021 Collision Discussion
Replies: 656
Views: 24197

Re: Hamilton/Verstappen British GP 2021 Collision Discussion

Any predictions on what the new evidence is. For it to be admissible it has to have been: Not evidence the stewards were aware of at the time of the original verdict. Unavailable at the time to the party lodging the appeal of the original verdict. Substantially different to evidence used in the ori...
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:43 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 219
Views: 12254

Re: Silly Season 2022

I'm talking about if they look better next year with two decent drivers than they would do with one decent driver and Latifi. Could they finish higher up in the WCC if they do? Could they raise their value in the stock market? I don't think they could at present, unless their second driver has Russ...
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:15 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 85
Views: 3481

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

I said greatest not best. Two different things. For example I think Alonso is better (based on their entire careers rather than right now) than Hamilton, but Hamilton is no doubt greater. On a purely reputational level surely Stefan Bellof must be a contender then. If we were talking best perhaps. ...
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:12 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton/Verstappen British GP 2021 Collision Discussion
Replies: 656
Views: 24197

Re: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision

Hamilton actually did yield, he just accidentally punted Verstappen off in the process. It's been pretty one sided in wheel-to-wheel combat this season in Verstappen's favour. Hamilton is yet to show anything more than flashes of the superb racecraft he showed between 2010-2016. If you can't beat h...
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:43 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton/Verstappen British GP 2021 Collision Discussion
Replies: 656
Views: 24197

Re: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision

This is Max being Max, not willing to give an inch even when it's clear he's at a disadvantage and relying on intimidation to force the other guy to lift because there's no way he's going to yield, but in this instance, he tried to intimidate the wrong driver on the wrong day, whilst helping said d...
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:15 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 85
Views: 3481

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

Bottom line Kubica drove a car capable of challenging the championship and Ricciardo hasn't. I think it's very important to make the distinction between a circumstantial challenger and a bona fide challenger. Kubica's 2008 challenge was firmly circumstantial. Hamilton and Massa were rather inconsis...
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:38 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 219
Views: 12254

Re: Silly Season 2022

I'm saying they need to improve the car massively to appear better then they are presently given that whoever replaces Russell will surely be worse, a bigger problem is the car rather then Latifi, if they don't improve the car weaker drivers are hardly going to offset the finance that Latifi brings...
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:35 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 85
Views: 3481

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

During the last ten/twelve years how many drivers got a "championship contending car" ? Some happy years four, or else only two. If you don't take into account the obvious subservient n° 2 drivers, it reduces the number to 1 or 2. Such is the state of F1 that I wouldn't bet on any of the current "b...
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:34 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 85
Views: 3481

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

Again his car was little better than Ricciardo's car is this season, Kubica got driver of the year because he was viewed as challenging for the title in a none title capable car otherwise finishing 4th in the WDC is in itself somewhat nondescript. We are looking to credit Ricciardo as the greatest ...
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:17 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 85
Views: 3481

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

During the last ten/twelve years how many drivers got a "championship contending car" ? Some happy years four, or else only two. If you don't take into account the obvious subservient n° 2 drivers, it reduces the number to 1 or 2. Such is the state of F1 that I wouldn't bet on any of the current "b...
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:11 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 219
Views: 12254

Re: Silly Season 2022

If it's not appearing better with Russell how is it going to appear better with a weaker drivers than Russell. Erm, it appears massively better with Russell than it would do with two Latifi's.... Baffled by how you can even argue that. I'm saying they need to improve the car massively to appear bet...
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:25 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Mercedes vs Red Bull - 2021
Replies: 669
Views: 34891

Re: Mercedes vs Red Bull - 2021

I’m interested in where Vettel and Leclerc fit into this- Verstappen Hamilton +0.2 Bottas +0.4 Perez +0.5 Have you worked it out? I have Vettel at Bottas level and Leclerc at Verstappen level or close to. Depends if you count 2019 or not. If you do, then Leclerc is 1.0-1.5 tenths slower than Versta...
by mikeyg123
Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:21 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 85
Views: 3481

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

Not at all, you think somehow that Kubica had fair chance in the 3rd best car because he got reasonable close unlike Ricciardo, but when we crunch the numbers we see that Ricciardo this season has a car little slower, that's credit to Kubica he was able to do better than Ricciardo but we will lamen...
by mikeyg123
Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:57 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Silly Season 2022
Replies: 219
Views: 12254

Re: Silly Season 2022

For sure because in qualy at least, the difference between Russel & Latifi is night & day. Especially seeing as Williams is floated on the Stock Exchange. Appearing better increases Williams value. If it's not appearing better with Russell how is it going to appear better with a weaker drivers than...
by mikeyg123
Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:50 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 85
Views: 3481

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

He still would qualify because it's also reliant on both Max and Hamilton messing up which isn't happening. Sure, so as it stands he's never driven a car capable of contending for the championship. I'm at a loss as to why this is so difficult for you. Sometimes it feels like you just want to argue ...
by mikeyg123
Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:53 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton/Verstappen British GP 2021 Collision Discussion
Replies: 656
Views: 24197

Re: Hamilton/Verstappen British GP 2021 Collision Discussion

Unless they really have some new, as yet unseen, revelation this really does seem a waste of time.
by mikeyg123
Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:00 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 85
Views: 3481

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

I see your point now but that was somewhat gifted to Kubica, did he have fair chance in the car he had, I would say no, I thought that was the point of Ricciardo being given a title capable car and then we're into deep semantics into exactly what challenging is, Kubica won one race, Ricciardo won 3...
by mikeyg123
Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:59 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Ricciardo done?
Replies: 85
Views: 3481

Re: Is Ricciardo done?

He relied on the faster cars messing up to have any kind of chance, his destiny was not in his own hands, he himself wasn't in a position to dictate the outcome of races as in winning races, for me that's not having a title capable car. I never said title capable I said TITLE CHALLENGING. Which the...