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by mikeyg123
Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:29 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 948
Views: 24440

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

Hands up if since reading / contributing to this thread, you've changed your mind over who's the best out of MS and LH? Or is it a very interesting thread with lots of good input but let's admit it, we all have our opinion and nothing's going to change it! ;) This isn't a criticism, just what I bel...
by mikeyg123
Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:53 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 948
Views: 24440

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

Another aspect that hasn't received any discussion is just how much of an asset Ross Brawn was to Schumacher. There have been other technical directors and teams that were as good as Rory Byrne and his colleagues in F1 history (people could cite Chapman, Newey, Barnard, Murray, the Mercedes technic...
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:29 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 948
Views: 24440

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

One aspect of mental strength where both Schumacher and Hamilton are ferocious is the desire to keep winning and winning. We don't know, but I doubt someone like Ricciardo has this trait. If he had joined Mercedes instead of Hamilton in 2013/14 then by this point he'd have probably been sated and l...
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:52 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 948
Views: 24440

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

Hamilton is mentally very strong. Just in a totally different way to the likes of Schumacher.

In character I always think Hamilton is very similar to Mansell. Especially earlier in his career.
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:11 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 948
Views: 24440

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

Yes, that is a myth, really. It started out with some projections than Schumacher with an ideal season could have matched Rosberg (without assuming an ideal season for him as well, of course). And over the years, the mantra was developed that he was better than Rosberg, which is as false as the cla...
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:09 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 948
Views: 24440

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

Yes, that is a myth, really. It started out with some projections than Schumacher with an ideal season could have matched Rosberg (without assuming an ideal season for him as well, of course). And over the years, the mantra was developed that he was better than Rosberg, which is as false as the cla...
by mikeyg123
Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:57 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 948
Views: 24440

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

I can't really comment on something I didn't watch and DTS has a reputation for somewhat stretching realities. What's being put about can be perhaps be seen as equally unreliable but it's being put out there that Bottas deliberately gave Verstappen a tow against the teams wishes to better advantage...
by mikeyg123
Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:51 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Female Racing Drivers
Replies: 1224
Views: 363551

Re: Female Racing Drivers

Have we heard anything more about the strange Juju Noda situation?
by mikeyg123
Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:45 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 948
Views: 24440

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

You have me at a disadvantage because I don't have access to the new series, all I hear is titbits like Bottas admitting to what he did. Now tell me did Bottas choose to be 6 tenths slower than Hamilton in qualifying or was he instructed to be that much slower because you seem to have better access...
by mikeyg123
Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:37 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Sprint races to replace Saturday qualifying?
Replies: 78
Views: 2581

Re: Sprint races to replace Saturday qualifying?

I fear it's going to be here to stay. More people will undoubtedly watch on Friday now actual quali happens then and more people will watch on Saturday because it's something new. That's what the powers that be are after. They won't care if it makes the product poorer. Only if it makes it more salea...
by mikeyg123
Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:12 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Who are the BEST QUALIFIERS on the grid?
Replies: 135
Views: 6859

Re: Who are the BEST QUALIFIERS on the grid?

Nobody ever seems to allow for a drivers current form. In pretty much all other sports, competitors have good and bad years and these are taken into account. This never seems to happen in F1. Just because driver A beat driver B a certain number of years ago and now driver B is beating driver C, it ...
by mikeyg123
Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:46 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Who are the BEST QUALIFIERS on the grid?
Replies: 135
Views: 6859

Re: Who are the BEST QUALIFIERS on the grid?

Probably worth noting that qualifying is probably Perez's weakest area and Bottas' strongest.
by mikeyg123
Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:06 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Extreme E in the desert - Live!
Replies: 24
Views: 951

Re: Extreme E in the desert - Live!

I dont get it. Its too gimmicky. Its trying to be different things at the same time. I would get it if it was the electric rally championship it would make alot more sense. But why a driver change. It's a gimmick that's not needed. Just bring in 2 cars and have the ladies racing in the series along...
by mikeyg123
Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:11 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 Bahrain Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 271
Views: 13782

Re: 2021 Bahrain Grand Prix Race Thread

He was never in contention to compete for position with Hamilton which is the default frustration you speak of. Yeah, I really don't see how you could call Bottas competitive. Close? Sure. But competitive implies that he was actually challenging Hamilton for his position (either P1 or P2), and he n...
by mikeyg123
Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:08 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 Bahrain Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 271
Views: 13782

Re: 2021 Bahrain Grand Prix Race Thread

For not COMPETING with Hamilton. You don't think that Bottas was competitive? He was never in contention to compete for position with Hamilton which is the default frustration you speak of. Yeah, I really don't see how you could call Bottas competitive. Close? Sure. But competitive implies that he ...
by mikeyg123
Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:44 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Brawn: Tsunoda F1's Best Rookie for Years
Replies: 32
Views: 1357

Re: Brawn: Tsunoda F1's Best Rookie for Years

Just out of interest, rookies that scored points on their debut - Raikkonen (6th) Hamilton (2nd) Vettel (8th) Perez (9th) (But DSQ'd) Sainz (9th) Tsunoda (9th) He's in pretty good company. Magnussen's podium too Yep, Magnussen has to have the oddest career trajectory ever. I was just listing curren...
by mikeyg123
Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:21 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 Bahrain Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 271
Views: 13782

Re: 2021 Bahrain Grand Prix Race Thread

Bottas race pace was exactly equal to Hamiltons, funny how so many jumped on Bottas’ back for this race. I feel Lewis has more to come in this car. It usually takes him 3-4 races to warm up. It might take longer this year with no real pre season. http://en.mclarenf-1.com/index.php?page=chart&gp=105...
by mikeyg123
Sat Apr 03, 2021 5:18 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread
Replies: 4773
Views: 1026546

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

So, in short - he has demonstrated his talent in a lesser car. Like Vettel did in Monza 2008? I'm not sure what you are relating this to exactly but you do know that Vettel's teammate qualified 4th for that race. He qualified fourth, but he was -0.890s behind Vettel. If Vettel had done what Bourdai...
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:29 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Brawn: Tsunoda F1's Best Rookie for Years
Replies: 32
Views: 1357

Re: Brawn: Tsunoda F1's Best Rookie for Years

Just out of interest, rookies that scored points on their debut -

Raikkonen (6th)
Hamilton (2nd)
Vettel (8th)
Perez (9th) (But DSQ'd)
Sainz (9th)
Tsunoda (9th)

He's in pretty good company.
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread
Replies: 4773
Views: 1026546

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Nothing annoys me more (in an F1 context) than people trying to devalue Vettel's Monza win. It's absurdly disingenuous.

And I'm one of Vettel's harshest critics.
by mikeyg123
Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:59 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 Bahrain Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 271
Views: 13782

Re: 2021 Bahrain Grand Prix Race Thread

Bottas race pace was exactly equal to Hamiltons, funny how so many jumped on Bottas’ back for this race. I feel Lewis has more to come in this car. It usually takes him 3-4 races to warm up. It might take longer this year with no real pre season. http://en.mclarenf-1.com/index.php?page=chart&gp=105...
by mikeyg123
Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:07 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Brawn: Tsunoda F1's Best Rookie for Years
Replies: 32
Views: 1357

Re: Brawn: Tsunoda F1's Best Rookie for Years

Well, he's only 5ft2 tall and weighs around 50kg. He's immediately got a weight/ballast advantage over his peers. That immediately gives him 0.2 seconds? And he's obviously no slouch either. These young drivers are bred for racing by their families and sponsors. Small things like this are worth rem...
by mikeyg123
Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:25 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton's Sportsmanship (split from Bahrain 2021 Race Thread)
Replies: 90
Views: 3761

Re: Hamilton's Sportsmanship (split from Bahrain 2021 Race Thread)

A stark contrast with Hamilton at Spa where he cut the chicane and let Kimi (?) past, only to immediately overtake him again on the straight. Assuming this is true, of course (haven't read anything about this). In that situation Hamilton was actually forced off the track and he was never really pas...
by mikeyg123
Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:23 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton's Sportsmanship (split from Bahrain 2021 Race Thread)
Replies: 90
Views: 3761

Re: Hamilton's Sportsmanship (split from Bahrain 2021 Race Thread)

A stark contrast with Hamilton at Spa where he cut the chicane and let Kimi (?) past, only to immediately overtake him again on the straight. Assuming this is true, of course (haven't read anything about this). In that situation Hamilton was actually forced off the track and he was never really pas...
by mikeyg123
Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:18 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton's Sportsmanship (split from Bahrain 2021 Race Thread)
Replies: 90
Views: 3761

Re: Hamilton's Sportsmanship (split from Bahrain 2021 Race Thread)

Verstappen’s sportsmanship is what needs to be discussed. He let Hamilton through between turns 10 and 11 because he said it would be “unfair” to let him through later in the lap and then DRS pass him down the main straight. That is Hakkinen level sportsmanship. Guys like Alonso or Hamilton, althou...
by mikeyg123
Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:12 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Great Big 2021 A > B > C Thread
Replies: 187
Views: 9439

Re: The Great Big 2021 A > B > C Thread

That's irrelevant - Exideron's post that you quoted clearly states it is a Q3 comparison. Then I just took it for granted that the method used in selecting laps was the same as mine. But why would you? The lap that decides your position is the lap in Q3 - the only reason to take a Q1 or Q2 lap is i...
by mikeyg123
Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:23 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton's Sportsmanship (split from Bahrain 2021 Race Thread)
Replies: 90
Views: 3761

Re: Hamilton's Sportsmanship (split from Bahrain 2021 Race Thread)

I think Max is a very straight and honest chap. I can't imagine him having a devious streak in him like Schumi or Alonso had, even though I'm sure he will continue to be a ferocious racer on track and sometimes a bit of a bully. He's about as straight-up a superstar as I've ever seen in sport reall...
by mikeyg123
Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:03 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton's Sportsmanship (split from Bahrain 2021 Race Thread)
Replies: 90
Views: 3761

Re: Hamilton's Sportsmanship (split from Bahrain 2021 Race Thread)

Feel a bit guilty for bringing this up now... Hamilton doesn't deserve to be damned in 2021 for something he did in 2009 and almost certainly wouldn't do again. I only brought it up to correct the notion that going off regularly at turn 4 is the least sporting thing Hamilton has done in his career. ...
by mikeyg123
Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:58 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton's Sportsmanship (split from Bahrain 2021 Race Thread)
Replies: 90
Views: 3761

Re: 2021 Bahrain Grand Prix Race Thread

The worst thing he's done in a sporting sense was probably directly lying to the stewards after Australia 2009. Anyone else would have probably been given a race ban for that. It was before my time as a regular watcher but it was my understanding that he was following orders from the top, not that ...
by mikeyg123
Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:24 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Official Sebastian Vettel thread
Replies: 906
Views: 281165

Re: Official Sebastian Vettel thread

PT03 wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:53 am
Oh i give up........Haters gotta hate.
I don't hate Vettel. I don't have to make excuses that don't add up for him either.
by mikeyg123
Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:24 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Official Sebastian Vettel thread
Replies: 906
Views: 281165

Re: Official Sebastian Vettel thread

Maybe you missed the bit driving beyond your limit in a car that you are not completely comfortable in - nothing to do with the car performing poorly (forgetting the step backward they have made due to Rake changes), as for he immediate reaction..............how often does anyone in F1 say 'oh yeah...
by mikeyg123
Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:34 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Official Sebastian Vettel thread
Replies: 906
Views: 281165

Re: Official Sebastian Vettel thread

Seems obvious to me...when you are not completely happy with the Race car you push it beyond it's and your limits, thus mistakes are made. The less the car is developed to your liking the more out of your comfort zone you have to go to make it perform. Cars that are a handful to drive are rarely fa...
by mikeyg123
Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:29 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Official Fernando Alonso thread
Replies: 1179
Views: 384691

Re: The Official Fernando Alonso thread

A good performance given he's with a new team and been away for two years. Able to fight for minor points in what was probably the 8th quickest car on the day. I don't think he'll be too fussed about the performance of the Alpine this year. He is all about 2022.
by mikeyg123
Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:48 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton's Sportsmanship (split from Bahrain 2021 Race Thread)
Replies: 90
Views: 3761

Re: 2021 Bahrain Grand Prix Race Thread

The worst thing he's done in a sporting sense was probably directly lying to the stewards after Australia 2009. Anyone else would have probably been given a race ban for that. It was before my time as a regular watcher but it was my understanding that he was following orders from the top, not that ...
by mikeyg123
Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:45 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton's Sportsmanship (split from Bahrain 2021 Race Thread)
Replies: 90
Views: 3761

Re: 2021 Bahrain Grand Prix Race Thread

The worst thing he's done in a sporting sense was probably directly lying to the stewards after Australia 2009. Anyone else would have probably been given a race ban for that. It was before my time as a regular watcher but it was my understanding that he was following orders from the top, not that ...
by mikeyg123
Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:11 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton's Sportsmanship (split from Bahrain 2021 Race Thread)
Replies: 90
Views: 3761

Re: 2021 Bahrain Grand Prix Race Thread

Dick Dastardly was a cheat and a scoundrel but he was still the fastest guy out there. Nah, I have it on good authority that it was because he drove the fastest car! :twisted: To be honest, Hamilton's deliberate bending of the spirit of the rules is up there with the worst thing he's done but in my...
by mikeyg123
Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:35 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton's Sportsmanship (split from Bahrain 2021 Race Thread)
Replies: 90
Views: 3761

Re: 2021 Bahrain Grand Prix Race Thread

F1Tyrant wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:28 am
So has the consensus flipped from last night that dastardly Sir Lewis somehow stole this one from Max despite a superb display of defensive driving?
Well, there is no reason both can't be true.

Dick Dastardly was a cheat and a scoundrel but he was still the fastest guy out there.
by mikeyg123
Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:27 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Official Sebastian Vettel thread
Replies: 906
Views: 281165

Re: Official Sebastian Vettel thread

Well I don't really see this first race as a definitive sign of things to come. I expect Vettel to be better than Stroll. Yeh it's a miserable start and he still needs to drag himself out of his hole. His immediate comments about his own incident pretty much shows that. Take accountability... But A...
by mikeyg123
Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:08 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Official Sebastian Vettel thread
Replies: 906
Views: 281165

Re: Official Sebastian Vettel thread

hmm, yea, i means loss of concentration or blank moment. Or anything else that would describe it. I can't defend him for the incident. I can't say it was a good weekend as a whole, I just thought he looked more comfortable with the car than he did most of last year in the early stages of the race. ...
by mikeyg123
Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:56 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Official Sebastian Vettel thread
Replies: 906
Views: 281165

Re: Official Sebastian Vettel thread

For the love of god please retire already Are you actually that desperate for him to retire. This was a pretty big mistake, but his race really wasn't bad at all until this point. The way he was fighting was excellent and brundle pointed this out. He had excellent defending with other drivers too. ...