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by mikeyg123
Thu Aug 13, 2026 4:04 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll
Replies: 194
Views: 3985

Re: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll

My issue with this reasoning is that it sets an impossible target for anyone with the best car and a good teammate. It's not plausible to believe that anyone -- Verstappen very much included in my opinion -- would be able to dominate an entrenched Russell the same way Verstappen can dominate a fres...
by mikeyg123
Mon Aug 10, 2026 12:11 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll
Replies: 194
Views: 3985

Re: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll

The qualifying gap is in Antonelli's favour, race pace is often harder to judge but Antonelli has often been 4 to 5 tenths quicker than Russell who before this year was considered the #2 or #3 best driver. One criticism of Verstappen has often been we never see him against a top line driver, if Ver...
by mikeyg123
Mon Aug 10, 2026 10:20 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread
Replies: 3764
Views: 887939

Re: F1 Gossip/Rumour/Inside news Thread

POB did very worthy work the I appreciate greatly but the problem with trying to empirically rate the speed of drivers is the same with his work as it is with any other system. At some point you are always forced to decide if the driver or the car is the baseline. Effectively you always have to take...
by mikeyg123
Mon Aug 10, 2026 6:09 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll
Replies: 194
Views: 3985

Re: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll

Which I also did but in that instant beating Russell has to be a higher bar than beating Hadjar if you are merely looking to compare teammate performance. As a blind read the driver leading the title has to come out ahead of lets say a back marker driver who happens to be thrashing his teammate. Ag...
by mikeyg123
Sun Aug 09, 2026 10:11 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll
Replies: 194
Views: 3985

Re: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll

I believe what ForumalaFun is saying is that he's taking into account this season alone whereas you are also using past history where obviously Verstappen has more brownie points. I'm rating there performances over this season alone. Obviously I'm using my prior knowledge to contextualise and bette...
by mikeyg123
Sun Aug 09, 2026 10:08 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll
Replies: 194
Views: 3985

Re: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll

And Stroll is in the same car, so therefore you can also claim exactly the same. This is about what we are seeing, not what they may have done in a better car. He's been beating him more reguarly than in previous years and been far closer in the races. That shouldn't be related to the fact it is a ...
by mikeyg123
Sun Aug 09, 2026 6:03 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll
Replies: 194
Views: 3985

Re: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll

Lol its annual assertion that Hamilton hasnt excelled across various regulations has arrived. Verstappen is a better driver than Antonelli at the moment, I think everyone here would agree... but this year specifically? Verstappen has done nothing to warrant being classified as the best driver... he...
by mikeyg123
Sun Aug 09, 2026 5:57 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll
Replies: 194
Views: 3985

Re: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll

Russell has never been very convincing, which makes it hard to judge him as a yardstick. Since the field has been up and down, see Norris and Piastri last year, it is easy to convince oneself that a new star is made. That extends to myself as well of course, in the past I was convinced that Montoya...
by mikeyg123
Sun Aug 09, 2026 5:55 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll
Replies: 194
Views: 3985

Re: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll

Lol its annual assertion that Hamilton hasnt excelled across various regulations has arrived. Verstappen is a better driver than Antonelli at the moment, I think everyone here would agree... but this year specifically? Verstappen has done nothing to warrant being classified as the best driver... he...
by mikeyg123
Sun Aug 09, 2026 5:48 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll
Replies: 194
Views: 3985

Re: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll

I can't really see why it is so hard to see. Antonelli being seen by many here as the best driver has a lot to do with his machinery. I think that is not only plain to see, but something that happens over and over again when a driver suddenly finds himself in by far the best car and his teammate is...
by mikeyg123
Sun Aug 09, 2026 5:44 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll
Replies: 194
Views: 3985

Re: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll

Lol its annual assertion that Hamilton hasnt excelled across various regulations has arrived. Verstappen is a better driver than Antonelli at the moment, I think everyone here would agree... but this year specifically? Verstappen has done nothing to warrant being classified as the best driver... he...
by mikeyg123
Sun Aug 09, 2026 3:28 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll
Replies: 194
Views: 3985

Re: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll

Dont really see how anyone can vote Verstappen as the best driver of this season tbh I can't really see why it is so hard to see. Antonelli being seen by many here as the best driver has a lot to do with his machinery. I think that is not only plain to see, but something that happens over and over ...
by mikeyg123
Sun Aug 09, 2026 3:26 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll
Replies: 194
Views: 3985

Re: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll

Here is how I voted in the poll: 1 Antonelli 2 Hamilton 3 Verstappen 4 Norris 5 Sainz 6 Leclerc 7 Russell 8 Bearman 9 Piastri 10 Gasly 11 Lawson 12 Bortoleto 13 Hadjar 14 Lindblad 15 Hulkenberg 16 Perez 17 Bottas 18 Alonso 19 Colapinto 20 Albon 21 Ocon 22 Stroll A few comments: * As usual, I'm not ...
by mikeyg123
Sun Aug 09, 2026 2:59 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll
Replies: 194
Views: 3985

Re: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll

Dont really see how anyone can vote Verstappen as the best driver of this season tbh I can't really see why it is so hard to see. Antonelli being seen by many here as the best driver has a lot to do with his machinery. I think that is not only plain to see, but something that happens over and over ...
by mikeyg123
Sun Aug 09, 2026 8:29 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll
Replies: 194
Views: 3985

Re: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll

Dont really see how anyone can vote Verstappen as the best driver of this season tbh There are numerous races in which he's beaten drivers in, what I think, were faster cars and he's probably out performed his teammate in races more than anyone else. Even on his "bad" days he's still well ahead of ...
by mikeyg123
Sat Aug 08, 2026 10:40 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll
Replies: 194
Views: 3985

Re: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll

Here is how I voted in the poll: 1 Antonelli 2 Hamilton 3 Verstappen 4 Norris 5 Sainz 6 Leclerc 7 Russell 8 Bearman 9 Piastri 10 Gasly 11 Lawson 12 Bortoleto 13 Hadjar 14 Lindblad 15 Hulkenberg 16 Perez 17 Bottas 18 Alonso 19 Colapinto 20 Albon 21 Ocon 22 Stroll A few comments: * As usual, I'm not ...
by mikeyg123
Fri Aug 07, 2026 10:26 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll
Replies: 194
Views: 3985

Re: 2026: Rank the Drivers Midseason Poll

Here is how I voted in the poll: 1 Verstappen 2 Antonelli 3 Hamilton 4 Norris 5 Leclerc 6 Gasly 7 Bearman 8 Russell 9 Sainz 10 Piastri 11 Bortoleto 12 Alonso 13 Hadjar 14 Lawson 15 Perez 16 Lindblad 17 Colapinto 18 Hulkenberg 19 Ocon 20 Albon 21 Bottas 22 Stroll
by mikeyg123
Thu Aug 06, 2026 4:24 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Mid Season Driver Rankings?
Replies: 32
Views: 2006

Re: Mid Season Driver Rankings?

Little has changed since the beginning of the season, gaps haven't diminished this just becomes a language and is not data driven, the drivers you would expect to be quicker are still quicker, generally the biggest problems certain drivers have is that the current cars have less grip, nothing to do...
by mikeyg123
Thu Aug 06, 2026 6:47 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Mid Season Driver Rankings?
Replies: 32
Views: 2006

Re: Mid Season Driver Rankings?

Have to say, I will find it much harder than usual to come up with a list. Aside from Stroll, it's hard to know who to put near the bottom. Also very hard to gauge where the RB drivers should go, how low to put Russell and Piastri and who from the midfield to put in front of them. Well I wouldn't w...
by mikeyg123
Wed Aug 05, 2026 8:40 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 186
Views: 17645

Re: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread

Cadillac and Alpine (and Haas and Williams as well of course) are simply trying to get the best bang for their buck. Given the position those teams are in, that is not at all different from Racing Bulls. We all know that the chances of those teams moving up the order are virtually non-existent. It ...
by mikeyg123
Wed Aug 05, 2026 8:38 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Mid Season Driver Rankings?
Replies: 32
Views: 2006

Re: Mid Season Driver Rankings?

Have to say, I will find it much harder than usual to come up with a list. Aside from Stroll, it's hard to know who to put near the bottom.

Also very hard to gauge where the RB drivers should go, how low to put Russell and Piastri and who from the midfield to put in front of them.
by mikeyg123
Wed Aug 05, 2026 8:35 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Mid Season Driver Rankings?
Replies: 32
Views: 2006

Re: Mid Season Driver Rankings?

Are we having a poll? Not much interest because drivers are irrelevant with these new regs... ;) I guess Verstappen not doing too well and you perhaps fear the worse, not from me by the way, drivers can't make a different while certain drivers are getting pummelled like Ocon, Albon Stroll, etc., Is...
by mikeyg123
Wed Aug 05, 2026 1:06 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 186
Views: 17645

Re: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread

As with every team, Racing Bulls is attracting the best drivers it can get given the constraints of the organisation. You can make the argument that Cadillac is not attracting the best drivers it can get and the same goes for Alpine. Yes and it's the constraints of the organisation which I'm talkin...
by mikeyg123
Tue Aug 04, 2026 9:10 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 186
Views: 17645

Re: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread

You may doubt it, but quite honestly nobody knows for sure. Yes, Racing Bulls takes on young drivers, but as we see with other teams that directly compete with Racing Bulls, that is neither very different nor a bad strategy. I think we do know for sure. The fact that they don't attempt to attract t...
by mikeyg123
Tue Aug 04, 2026 5:25 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 186
Views: 17645

Re: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread

I am sure it is every team's ambition to win races. I am sure it is every team's ambition to win championships even. I don't even doubt that Racing Bulls harbours this ambition. But that does not mean that all teams have an effective chance of that happening under the best of circumstances. Going b...
by mikeyg123
Tue Aug 04, 2026 3:31 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 186
Views: 17645

Re: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread

Over the past 20 plus years, we have had Ferrari, McLaren, Mercedes, and Red Bull Racing competing realistically for a championship, whether it be the WDC or the WCC. Williams' last realistic chance for any title was in 2003 and everyone knows that Renault was no longer a top team after wining in 2...
by mikeyg123
Tue Aug 04, 2026 1:26 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 186
Views: 17645

Re: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread

Williams, Haas, Cadillac, and Alpine are perennial no-hopers in terms of competing for either the WDC or WCC. For Audi it is unclear, stated ambitious might never translate into anything meaningful before Audi decides to pull out at some point. How can Cadillac be perennial anything? They've not ev...
by mikeyg123
Tue Aug 04, 2026 6:01 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 186
Views: 17645

Re: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread

I am not sure what you mean by that. Firstly, how do you know that the team never had an ambition to get to the front? I still remember Toro Rosso doing better than RB in 2008, I don't think that anyone is or has been in F1 for fairy cakes and giggles. Apart from Andrea Moda maybe... And even the s...
by mikeyg123
Mon Aug 03, 2026 8:29 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 186
Views: 17645

Re: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread

As I've said before, F1 is no longer in a place where it needs one entity to own two teams. I don't think Red Bull actually ever does really use the B team to support the A team on track but the fact is whilst the situation exists it remains a possibility and is un sporting. The same could actually...
by mikeyg123
Mon Aug 03, 2026 6:05 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 186
Views: 17645

Re: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread

As I've said before, F1 is no longer in a place where it needs one entity to own two teams. I don't think Red Bull actually ever does really use the B team to support the A team on track but the fact is whilst the situation exists it remains a possibility and is un sporting. The same could actually...
by mikeyg123
Sat Aug 01, 2026 8:26 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 186
Views: 17645

Re: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread

As I've said before, F1 is no longer in a place where it needs one entity to own two teams. I don't think Red Bull actually ever does really use the B team to support the A team on track but the fact is whilst the situation exists it remains a possibility and is un sporting. The same could actually ...
by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 27, 2026 9:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Driver(s) of the day - 2025 Hungarian Grand Prix
Replies: 92
Views: 10961

Re: Driver(s) of the day - 2025 Hungarian Grand Prix

Max, that car had no business finishing on the podium let alone second. Good drive by Norris, other than the start. Hulk had a solid drive, same for Lawson. Not sure of this... Everybody is judging the RB drivers as if their car is still the millstone it was at the beginning of the season. But it's...
by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 27, 2026 7:57 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 186
Views: 17645

Re: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread

I'm accusing him of not caring where Piastri was, when he went wide on the corner where did he think Piastri was going to be, he drove like Piastri didn't exist. He obviously thought Piastri was still behind him (or perhaps he wasn't thinking about Piastri at all) either way he was wrong and got a ...
by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 27, 2026 5:46 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 186
Views: 17645

Re: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread

For the contact with the race leader, Sainz was informed on his radio that Piastri was close behind Alonso so where did he think Piastri was after Alonso passed him. Behind him, I assume. Unless you are accusing Sainz of crashing into Piastri on purpose. I'm accusing him of not caring where Piastri...
by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 27, 2026 5:45 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 82
Views: 13237

Re: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

What about track progression how does a driver judge that, Antonelli had already slowed down approaching the corner, Verstappen impedes both Antonelli and Russell but no penalty. What about track progression? Unless it's gone from wet to dry you can't be faster than ever past an accident and have b...
by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 27, 2026 5:15 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 82
Views: 13237

Re: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Reading the stewards report it seems using Russell as an example Antonelli looked to do the same as him but somehow the stewards viewed it differently, Antonelli slowed but they say not by enough, like I said how long is a piece of string these stewards make it up as they go along, Not being faster...
by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 27, 2026 5:13 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 186
Views: 17645

Re: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread

Reading Sainz's response to what he did, he said he doesn't need to apologise and it's just racing, while I guess he can respond like that given the pathetic penalty he was given, a race ban might be more appropriate for what he did. I race ban for not being aware of the race leader would be a tad ...
by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 27, 2026 5:01 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 186
Views: 17645

Re: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread

Reading Sainz's response to what he did, he said he doesn't need to apologise and it's just racing, while I guess he can respond like that given the pathetic penalty he was given, a race ban might be more appropriate for what he did. I race ban for not being aware of the race leader would be a tad ...
by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 27, 2026 4:57 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 82
Views: 13237

Re: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Did Antonelli slow down as much or more than Russell? He cannot have less ... ;) Reading the stewards report it seems using Russell as an example Antonelli looked to do the same as him but somehow the stewards viewed it differently, Antonelli slowed but they say not by enough, like I said how long ...
by mikeyg123
Mon Jul 27, 2026 10:49 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 186
Views: 17645

Re: 2026 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread

If Sainz's acts in that way again then that would ask the question, maybe just unfortunate it happened to be a VCARB in the mix which enabled Verstappen's overtake. What do you even mean by this? Max and Lewis were both coming through the top midfield cars after pitting. Lewis got by Lindblad in a ...