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Only have to do some googling of what Button does, I remember when DC and JB did a bike run and David as you can tell is looking prime. And even he struggled to keep up with Button and when they stopped over for a drink Button had hardly broke a sweat - was sunny as well. Think that was a BBC specia...

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Its funny that so many people claim Mclaren and Mercedez have issues with each other, all I can see is. Merc Guy "You will have to pay for these engines, few $mil a year" Mclaren Guy "Hmmm I dont really want to pay for them but okay" Mclaren Guy says to another Mclaren Guy "I dont want to pay money ...

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Lol here we go again, how long till this one is locked. Another round in circles arguement about Lewis vs Button. The OP has nothing to do with Lewis, Buttons car is different to Lewis's let alone on Car setup - otherwise they would both have the same level of reliability. lewis is claiming to of dr...

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Haha! I saw the thread and I was readying myself to find a video of Lewis on Kimi into turn 1 in Monza 2007... I was thinking the exact same thing - the ones that are good really shock the other driver. Even Lauda said he didnt see that coming, no one did. Kimi was like OMG. Still is one of my favo...

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As a Lewis fan I dont care about the IFs and BUTs because frankly - THAT IS F1. What if Button was more consistent like last season and actually doing a better job then Lewis this season - does that mean it would be Button Vs Lewis for the title? (which I will be honest, sounds great). What if luck ...

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I actually agree with Button, people say the cars are the same - but as Lewis has shown its not. Why is it one car fails more often than the other, why is it one driver can get the max performance yet the other cant. Usually there is something more and JB has proved that consistently he is a good dr...

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Canada - dont need to answer why.

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lack of experience

Enough said.

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People are reading too much in to what he is saying, he is simply saying that he has had a problem pretty much everyweekend lately. People also need to remember that the car he drives isnt the car Lewis drives. Although they may seem it - they are hand built. Button is experienced enough to know (an...

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Covalent wrote:Marko is the only reason I can't wholeheartedly support Vettel.

Did he fire Ricciardo yet for the incident with Vettel during the SC period?

This is how I feel, Marko has a big grip over the teams and he is the main reason why favouritism is questioned.

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Well they probably did - THIS GP.

We will never know because Vettel was at the back.

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Well all I am going to say is all my predictions have come true, frankly though Lewis is showing how unhappy he is.

At the end of the day, if they have had the strongest car all season - Lewis too could of been doing a far better job.

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I say Paul Di Resta, just to see what he can do against Kimi.

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With the way things went during negotiations I can't see McLaren bending over backwards (firing JB or Peréz) to bring Hamilton back to the team within the next three years. If he does return it'll be after that period. But why would his fans want him to return? All I hear is how useless McLaren are...

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Pedal2DMetal wrote:Not meant to offend anybody but the American media has the habit of snubbing sports spectacles that they don't excel at...Why is F1 still not that popular in the US? or is it?

If the race is like what we just had - YES.

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Japan - can't remember When people try and bring stats I ignore them as soon as I see "Cant remember". How about you go back and actually research. And while your at it, do the same for every team on that grid because other teams have had severe reliability issues. The only difference with Mclaren ...

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MikeV1987 wrote:He was lucky, but he still got the job done. Fair play, get over it.

+1

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I personally believe that no team jeopardizes its own car or driver... Conspiracies are rarely true and teams dont prefer slower drivers over faster ones just coz the fans think so... You have answered your own question. JB too has had reliability issues, I dont get why people are so stupid and eve...

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Blinky McSquinty wrote:My condolences. It is a sad day for all. Suicide bombers, failing economy, and now all this. Sometimes it's just too much.

+1

Some people need to get over it, most people who dont watch F1 dont even know who Kimi is but know who Lewis is.

Like it or not no one cares about Kimi.

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I personally believe that no team jeopardizes its own car or driver... Conspiracies are rarely true and teams dont prefer slower drivers over faster ones just coz the fans think so... You have answered your own question. JB too has had reliability issues, I dont get why people are so stupid and eve...

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RickM wrote:oh grow up people.

+10 Here

All the top teams have suffered in the last few years, remember RBR in 2010? They should have walked it that year.

Grow up indeed people.

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Thread is going because mods deleted repeat threads. Simples.

Its called stop creating a new one.

As for penalty - justified.

Edited by mod: We don't stop creating new threads, we stop recreating existing ones...

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Why should he be? +1 Plus is it being taken out of context, frankly I hate being an older brother to anyone - makes me feel old!!!! JB is a very laid back guy and tends to just say how it is, so in my view Jb is simply saying why are people expecting me to be an older brother to some one who is old...

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Would like to add something to the debate: McLaren Race: Hamilton Season: Jenson Button 5 - Lewis Hamilton 12 Quote from PF1 article: Hamilton revealed a lot in his post-race interviews. Mostly that he was looking at Jenson all the way through the opening corners and not even thinking about Alonso....

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Seriously, the guy comes back after being 2 years out of the sport..has been constantly under attack by the media and alot of fans in his last season..they were even questioning his motivation when he signed his contract with Lotus for driving the 2012 season. And what do you get? The guy has now b...

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but Vettel kept notching up the points and stayed patient early on when the Red Bull was struggling, then worked with his team to bring the car up to the dominant level it now enjoys. His part in that cannot be underestimated, even if Alonso and many fans dismiss it as all Adrian Newey’s work. Than...

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Have been saying all along their problem has been Qualifying. Race pace they are either matching the RBR (or who ever is leading) or just and I mean just behind. Regardless of who has had the best car Ferrari have been right there, from RBR/Mclaren/Williams and Sauber - Ferrari have been there. Its ...

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When Alonso leaves Ferrari and Newey leaves RBR.

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I think a lot of drivers on that grid are under estimated, sadly this is F1. Those drivers who are good dont have to worry about their seats, other drivers like Massa have had to fight to keep their seat in F1.

At the end of a day if a driver is worth it, he wont struggle to get a race seat.

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out of the grid , he deserves it more than any one lol Why is that? because he is number 1 and his team mate has been appauling and when he finally does something he isnt allowed to touch Alonso? I wonder would alonso be so good this season if Massa got his act together from day 1 instead of a rare...

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Formula1Fan. wrote:He will lose although he doesn't deserve to, but I do hope he throws another trademark tantrum. They are most entertaining.

+1 on this my friend.

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Teammates aren't good benchmark. Okay then I guess that means Massa is just a fantastic driver and its only luck and number 1 status in Ferrari which is why Alonso is beating him. Which means the Ferrari is just a brilliant car and Alonso isnt all that. Looking at the team mates Alonso has had they...

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Why do people keep dissing alonso based on this statement. What are you on about? Take it you didnt watch much of 2007? maybe you just looked at stats. Its called history and it actually happened. Anyone knows a new driver in F1 to beat their team mate especially of a double world champ is no easy ...

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"I am a fan of Fernando's - I was a fan even before I got into Formula 1" :lol: :lol: The love between this two is getting ridiculous, but if it's genuine, I'm all for it. More about Alonso, Vettel and Newey here: http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12433/8204395/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_me...

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I'm officially fed up with that. Oh well, grow up and get over it. It has a huge point if you like it or not. Its a fact that Vettel is pretty much making webber look average, we have not seen webber put up much of a fight since 2010 and he knows it. As for the article its also an opinion and if yo...

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So he has a race or two off and that deserves question?

I question some people here. Driver does a poor job its the car, another driver does a poor job hes a waste of space...

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I dont have any sympathy for Maldonado at all this weekend, after what he has done deserves black flag and race bans - Gros got banned for not realizing he was driving in to Lewis - causing a huge accident. Maldonado purposely drives in to other drivers and gets a slapped wrist. Maldonado is finally...

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How much faster are Red Bull now than earlier in the year? They aren't winning the races by miles, generally. In Korea it was not even that easy, it was a bit tense again here today. Vettel having the front wing problem and all (or whatever it was). It seems to me that the main difference between n...

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Like Alonso, Hamilton has driven fantastically well this year, but has simply been devoid of luck. Hamilton and Button have lost McLaren a potential Constructors Championship and not the other way around. I rather think it is the other way around in the case of both drivers in 2012. Think you find ...

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