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by Steve C
Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:22 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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I see you puny little country wasn't attacked. I guess the moral of the story is, Don't F with America. And perhaps a "You're Welcome" to the many of millions of now freed people around the world. Yes, we shouldn't be the police all the time but who's going to stand up to the injustice? Your puny li...
by Steve C
Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:03 pm
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We can end this right now if you'd like. Nobody I know likes war. Nobody I know likes senseless killing. We have friends in the world and I bet your country is a friend of America. I'd like for us to pull out of countries that don't like us but still maintain a presence close. After 9/11, America pu...
by Steve C
Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:56 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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No, not everybody deserves a fair trial in the battle field. If you're having trouble defining good and evil, I can help. Terrorist and terrorism do have meaning. America invaded Afghanistan. You might have a legitimate reason for doing that, but to take a stance that whoever took up to resisting w...
by Steve C
Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:50 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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Ok, Jimbox01 and Prema, I am not aware of US or it's allies hunting down U citizens in the battlefield. I'll stand by my comment and say that the US cannot/should not retain without due process any American suspected in terrorism. The fact that it happens doesn't change my view. Once you've become ...
by Steve C
Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:12 am
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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Ok, Jimbox01 and Prema, I am not aware of US or it's allies hunting down U citizens in the battlefield. I'll stand by my comment and say that the US cannot/should not retain without due process any American suspected in terrorism. The fact that it happens doesn't change my view. Once you've become ...
by Steve C
Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:29 am
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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"Perhaps, but we're not talking about a corner store robbery here. These are people who are fighting against good (yes, I can say good vs evil) and have been captured in the field of battle." That what if for these people it isn't good vs evil. It's their way of life (good) vs the invaders (evil). ...
by Steve C
Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:09 am
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I'm sure your not so obtuse you didn't get the question. However I will rephrase for you. If America was invaded fighting was happening on the streets gun fights everywhere would you choose to sit in your house and ignore or would you go out and try to protect your country, kids, family, friends an...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:24 pm
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If someone came in to America to attack your country on the basis of something you personally haven't done would you still pick up your gun and fight for your country? I'm not following you question. My country, if attacked, has an standing army. It is their job to protect me. Is that what you're a...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:33 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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Are they terrorist if they haven't been trialled and found guilty of anything? His point was there could be innocents locked up under this blanket. Perhaps, but we're not talking about a corner store robbery here. These are people who are fighting against good (yes, I can say good vs evil) and have...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:00 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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Re: Obama rate his presidency.

Ok, Jimbox01 and Prema, I am not aware of US or it's allies hunting down U citizens in the battlefield. I'll stand by my comment and say that the US cannot/should not retain without due process any American suspected in terrorism. The fact that it happens doesn't change my view. Once you've become ...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:05 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
Replies: 227
Views: 82182

Re: Obama rate his presidency.

Ok, Jimbox01 and Prema, I am not aware of US or it's allies hunting down U citizens in the battlefield. I'll stand by my comment and say that the US cannot/should not retain without due process any American suspected in terrorism. The fact that it happens doesn't change my view. Once you've become ...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:29 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is this Mclaren new livery?
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Re: Is this Mclaren new livery?

Merc would not be happy with that. (Or maybe they would) Why not? Because the silver cars have always been Mercs, since the 1930's at least. Where do you see silver? What is it? Looks like "chrome" to me, which is the same. (I have only seen the one pic though) Moby, look at the link in the first c...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:26 pm
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For those who care...

Liberals judge how well they're doing by how many people the Gov't is helping...
Conservatives judge how well they're doing by how many people don't need the Gov'ts help anymore...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:21 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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Re: Obama rate his presidency.

Ok, Jimbox01 and Prema, I am not aware of US or it's allies hunting down U citizens in the battlefield. I'll stand by my comment and say that the US cannot/should not retain without due process any American suspected in terrorism. The fact that it happens doesn't change my view. Once you've become a...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:04 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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He shouldn't close Gitmo, it's a prison. A place to hold bad guys, real bad guys. Yes, some of them may even be that. So you will keep them all indefinitely, till they all die, without a legal process and/or trial, on Cuba. That would also tell something what America stands for, wouldn't it? They h...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:01 pm
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They have no rights but you can put them on trial for war crimes and then keep them there forever as far as I'm concerned. I will say, for those who are there that have gained US citizenship, they have rights and should be treated as Americans. That also means that we don't go hunt down and kill Am...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:15 pm
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I ant to go back to Blake's dealing with our 17th amendment. Yes, I agree 100% that we should get rid of it. Our Constitution was written so that the people had the power and the States had the power when certain things weren't spelled out in the Constitution. This was called the 10th amendment. I d...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:08 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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Anyway, Steve, there is a zero chance that Obama's proposal of increasing the taxes for the very rich section of people would ever pass the Congress. Besides that Congress happens to be Republican, they all are quite wealthy people themselves and they are to protect the interests of rich section of...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:39 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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Anyway, Steve, there is a zero chance that Obama's proposal of increasing the taxes for the very rich section of people would ever pass the Congress. Besides that Congress happens to be Republican, they all are quite wealthy people themselves and they are to protect the interests of rich section of...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:36 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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So you have an issue with a senator being elected by a vote of the citizens of the state? You would rather have then senators chosen by the state legislature? So the people see l sellected to the state legislature gather and choose that state's Senator. It is as though they cannot trust citizens of...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:28 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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I always cringe when I read "fairness" and "equality". Who is to decide? You? Of course it is not me to decide about it, neither I pretend so. But you put forward the question " I ask you all, is this fair?". So I thought you were inviting to discussing. So why go cringing now? America is about opp...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:12 am
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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So you have an issue with a senator being elected by a vote of the citizens of the state? You would rather have then senators chosen by the state legislature? So the people see l sellected to the state legislature gather and choose that state's Senator. It is as though they cannot trust citizens of...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:11 am
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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So you have an issue with a senator being elected by a vote of the citizens of the state? You would rather have then senators chosen by the state legislature? So the people see l sellected to the state legislature gather and choose that state's Senator. It is as though they cannot trust citizens of...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:01 am
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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Look, when I say we need to get back to what the founders wanted, I'm not talking about denying anyone a vote or bringing back slavery. I'm talking about small limited Gov't with the people having more power and the States having more power. I want to repeal the 17th amendment and give the States th...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:30 am
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That all men are created equal. That's something it says about equality, so why did slavery exist in everyday.life in America for so long? Why are there still, over 200 years later, some parts of or some citizens of America who still have issue with skin colour? Why did it take until the 26th (or m...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:25 am
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It shouldn't surprise anybody. How long did it take for women to get to vote? How long for people of color? One could use those as examples as to the failings in a document written over 200 years ago. Times change... and what was "right" then may not be relevant today. Is it reasonable to expect a ...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:53 am
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I don't expect most to understand or know the Declaration of Independence or our US Constitution, hell I don't know a lot (but I am learning more and more) but we do need to understand it's principles and rights. For instance. We all know about freedom of speech or right to bear arms bit did you kno...
by Steve C
Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:42 am
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I can't find my previous post or maybe it got deleted or something. Again, we're talking income tax. The top 1% wage earners pay roughly 38% of the taxes. The top 5% pay 54% and the top 10% pay 65% of the income taxes. I ask you all, is this fair? You did not mention that the bottom 50% that are be...
by Steve C
Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:27 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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I can't find my previous post or maybe it got deleted or something. Again, we're talking income tax. The top 1% wage earners pay roughly 38% of the taxes. The top 5% pay 54% and the top 10% pay 65% of the income taxes. I ask you all, is this fair? You did not mention that the bottom 50% that are be...
by Steve C
Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:42 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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Is it fair that someone has a mere 500k to live on whilst others are struggling to get by on 15k? (Surely no one earns $15k and expected to live on it? Surely they have that income topped up by benefits?) What does fairness have to do with how much someone makes? The person making $500k most have d...
by Steve C
Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:31 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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Here is a small portion of our Declaration of Independence: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights,...
by Steve C
Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:28 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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Re: Obama rate his presidency.

Here is a small portion of our Declaration of Independence: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights,...
by Steve C
Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:22 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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Is it fair that someone has a mere 500k to live on whilst others are struggling to get by on 15k? (Surely no one earns $15k and expected to live on it? Surely they have that income topped up by benefits?) What does fairness have to do with how much someone makes? The person making $500k most have d...
by Steve C
Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:08 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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Re: Obama rate his presidency.

I can't find my previous post or maybe it got deleted or something. Again, we're talking income tax. The top 1% wage earners pay roughly 38% of the taxes. The top 5% pay 54% and the top 10% pay 65% of the income taxes. I ask you all, is this fair? What would you have the guy making $15,000 a year p...
by Steve C
Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:07 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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Re: Obama rate his presidency.

I can't find my previous post or maybe it got deleted or something. Again, we're talking income tax. The top 1% wage earners pay roughly 38% of the taxes. The top 5% pay 54% and the top 10% pay 65% of the income taxes. I ask you all, is this fair? What would you have the guy making $15,000 a year p...
by Steve C
Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:47 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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Here is a small portion of our Declaration of Independence: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, ...
by Steve C
Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:40 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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I can't find my previous post or maybe it got deleted or something.

Again, we're talking income tax. The top 1% wage earners pay roughly 38% of the taxes. The top 5% pay 54% and the top 10% pay 65% of the income taxes. I ask you all, is this fair?
by Steve C
Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:23 pm
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A flat tax is an equal rate in which all above a certain level pay on their income. Whether you make $50,000/yr or $500,000 a year, you pay the same rate. What is not fait about that? The tax is of a devastating effect.... Amen brother. The Gov't is too big and therefore has to tax at such a great ...
by Steve C
Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:18 pm
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Topic: Obama rate his presidency.
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A flat tax is an equal rate in which all above a certain level pay on their income. Whether you make $50,000/yr or $500,000 a year, you pay the same rate. What is not fait about that? The tax is of a devastating effect.... Amen brother. The Gov't is too big and therefore has to tax at such a great ...
by Steve C
Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:01 pm
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We can? I am waiting. the "flat" tax and the "consumer" tax doesn't appear to be the answer. Sure, what's the definition of "Fair" The consumption tax, BTW, also affects visitors. So anyone coming to America will pay the 23% Fair Tax. I'm liking it much more. 23%.... So... a minumum wage worker, tr...