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KingVoid

Max is still a better racer than he is a qualifier. Repeating your opinion does not make it into a fact. You've brought forward some arguments to support your case, which is great, but statements like this really don't help anything. You would think that having 15 wins and only 8 poles would make i...

KingVoid

Surprised that Verstappen has so little votes to become WDC, he has the superior car and is in top 3 drivers on the grid so don't think there is much Hamilton will be able to do in the long run unless Merc pull their finger out, if you look at Austria I think this is basically how the races will go...

KingVoid

Max is still a better racer than he is a qualifier. Repeating your opinion does not make it into a fact. You've brought forward some arguments to support your case, which is great, but statements like this really don't help anything. You would think that having 15 wins and only 8 poles would make i...

KingVoid

I’m interested in where Vettel and Leclerc fit into this- Verstappen Hamilton +0.2 Bottas +0.4 Perez +0.5 Have you worked it out? I have Vettel at Bottas level and Leclerc at Verstappen level or close to. Depends if you count 2019 or not. If you do, then Leclerc is 1.0-1.5 tenths slower than Versta...

KingVoid

Nonetheless, Verstappen’s race pace is better than his qualy pace anyway. I'm not sure I agree with that. A hallmark of a driver with better race pace than qualifying would be to frequently challenge for wins in races where they were uncompetitive in qualifying, and we don't really see that from Ve...

KingVoid

Nonetheless, Verstappen’s race pace is better than his qualy pace anyway. I'm not sure I agree with that. A hallmark of a driver with better race pace than qualifying would be to frequently challenge for wins in races where they were uncompetitive in qualifying, and we don't really see that from Ve...

KingVoid

I wouldn't want to disagree with the first part as for the second part in respect to the forum you are in the minority. Since the beginning of 2019, Verstappen has been making equal or fewer mistakes than Hamilton. If Verstappen is faster than Hamilton, and more/equal in consistency, then at that p...

KingVoid

Perhaps in one lap pace but there is no way Verstappen was the superior race driver. Your previous crossover point of mid-2019 is fairer and I find it much hard to argue that Verstappen wasn't within Hamilton's margin of error. I have Verstappen surpassing Hamilton on ultimate pace in 2017 and surp...

KingVoid

Being that Verstappen was ahead “AND” Hamilton had MORE THAN A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF HIS CAR ALONGSIDE UPON ENTRY TO THE CORNER, it was Verstappen’s responsibility to MAINTAIN his line AND NOT cut across INTO the attacking driver. There isn’t any thy to debate on that front. Every other driver who...

KingVoid

That is a narrative that we now know isn’t true because Verstappen had already surpassed Hamilton in speed in 2018 at the latest (but more realistically 2017). Perhaps in one lap pace but there is no way Verstappen was the superior race driver. Your previous crossover point of mid-2019 is fairer an...

KingVoid

That is a narrative that we now know isn’t true because Verstappen had already surpassed Hamilton in speed in 2018 at the latest (but more realistically 2017). Perhaps in one lap pace but there is no way Verstappen was the superior race driver. Your previous crossover point of mid-2019 is fairer an...

KingVoid

That's why you can't simply throw in numbers without context, saying that Webber was better than Rosberg when he was a rookie is the same as saying that Sainz is the equal of Max today, so how can Max be the best today when Leclerc is presently better than Sainz, Ignore more recent Hamilton > Butto...

KingVoid

It's inaccurate if you are still using out of date 2014 data when newer better data is available, in the 2018 Mercedes/Ferrari season why are you declaring Hamilton and Vettel as equals when the data said that Hamilton was the fastest driver in F1, faster than Vettel and Alonso, why wasn't that ann...

KingVoid

I went back to check this as I remember you at the time always being adamant that Hamilton wasn't quicker than Vettel. In this thread you state there's nothing between them. I'd guess you've changed your mind on that now? I ask because I assume back then you did many driver comparisons to come to t...

KingVoid

Qualifying data came out after 2015 showing Hamilton to be faster than Vettel, and validated in subsequent years 2016-2018, yet KingVoid in 2018 voted them as equal drivers, I guess he had no interest in the data back then. Funny how you are the exact opposite. You truly believed in the data back t...

KingVoid

It wasn't fully justified, Ricciardo was seen as the equal of Hamilton because of his numbers against Vettel in 2014, to validate that there was a set level he needed to beat the Hulk by but he came up short, he not only came up short against the Hulk but he also came up short against Ocon the seas...

KingVoid

Out of interest if you don't mind. What does the Max/Sainz/Lando equation give you? That chain suggests that Verstappen and Norris are equal, although Verstappen was only 17 at the time. Anyway, I don’t expect Perez to get any closer to Verstappen with time because I truly believe that this is the ...

KingVoid

Out of interest if you don't mind. What does the Max/Sainz/Lando equation give you? That chain suggests that Verstappen and Norris are equal, although Verstappen was only 17 at the time. Anyway, I don’t expect Perez to get any closer to Verstappen with time because I truly believe that this is the ...

KingVoid

Wern't you one of the ones making the claims Vettel was quicker than Hamilton though? And that that season would prove it? As far as I am aware, no. Anyway, I used Jenson Button as a benchmark to calculate how Verstappen, Hamilton, Perez, and Bottas would stack up against each other, since Button i...

KingVoid

I remember when Ferrari and Mercedes were compared in 2018, a lot of people were saying that the drivers are not equal and making a difference. I feel the same way about this year. If the cars were identical, this is how I’d expect qualifying to go: 1. Verstappen 2. Hamilton (0.2s behind) 3. Bottas ...

KingVoid

I have a feeling that if Russell moved to Red Bull, you would end up with a very similar dynamic to Hamilton-Rosberg. Two drivers who are the same age, with one driver (Verstappen/Hamilton) having a bit of an edge over the other (Russell/Rosberg), but not by a decisive enough margin for the trailing...

KingVoid

Invade wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:26 am

Enjoy and all that.

These animations are really cool. I’ve seen a few of them.

KingVoid

Hamilton’s racecraft is incredibly overrated. He’s either overly cautious or stupidly clumsy. He doesn’t know how to walk the line like Alonso and Verstappen do. Did Verstappen walk the line today or get it wrong? If you watch the on board he turns right knowing Lewis is beside him and he's the one...

KingVoid

I'm not sure about Imola and Hamilton fans complaining but wasn't Barcelona a dive bomb pass by Max which if Hamilton hadn't yielded he would have been into the barrier at high speed at least according to Horner. Cristian Horner is an eccentric man who likes to exaggerate, for both good and bad. Th...

KingVoid

I think yesterday bordered on deliberate from Hamilton (see the stewards' comments about car 44 not trying to make the apex), but it didn't result in a race ban (barely resulted in a penalty at all). No reason why Max can't return the favor in a similar fashion. I keep reading this not making the A...

KingVoid

Look at Verstappen’s rookie season in Formula 3 and compare it to Hamilton: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Formula_3_Euro_Series https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIA_Formula_3_European_Championship Look at how superior Verstappen’s debut season is. I’d say his chances at winning a junior ...

KingVoid

Verstappen started in F1 at 17 because it was possibile(and RedBull is RedBull. Remember, they fast tracked Vettel too) and not because he was some kind of genius doing things never seen before. Verstappen won 23 titles in karting. Hamilton won 7 titles. Verstappen became karting world champion at ...

KingVoid

Hamilton knows how to place his car in relation to his opponent's to make sure the opponent crashes out while minimizing his own risk, Whenever a car on the inside hits a car on the outside, the car on the outside is usually at greater risk of spinning out or crashing into the barriers. The car on ...

KingVoid

But don't let the facts get in the way of the British fans are jerks narrative you want to spin. While I would think you're referring to the fans at Silverstone - I assume you have watched the Euros or at least read newspaper reports of everything that happened around it, right? Not exactly a spin ...

KingVoid

Very very shameful from red bull bosses. Insinuating that it was a deliberate act and now bringing lawyers into a sporting incident, absolutely disgraceful honestly, now I remember what I hated this team so much. They still have the lead in both championships as well lol. Nah, you just don’t like t...

KingVoid

There seems to be some rumours on social media about Red Bull getting lawyers involved… Very very shameful from red bull bosses. Insinuating that it was a deliberate act and now bringing lawyers into a sporting incident, absolutely disgraceful honestly, now I remember what I hated this team so much...

KingVoid

It will be 2025 and some clueless people will still be arguing that Max didn’t leave space.

KingVoid

Do you think you or Alonso is better qualified to judge the unique situation? I'd say the stewards, because they have the data and telemetry. It amazes me how you continue to jump towards appeal for authority even when the ultimate authority gave Hamilton a penalty. What was your opinion on the vet...

KingVoid

I'd be careful though. KV also initially said Alonso and every other current driver blamed Hamilton. That right after the race when the first driver to speak out (Ricciardo) blamed Hamilton. The likes of DC, Button and Webber also blamed Hamilton. That’s when I said that everyone was blaming Hamilt...

KingVoid

There seems to be some rumours on social media about Red Bull getting lawyers involved… Very very shameful from red bull bosses. Insinuating that it was a deliberate act and now bringing lawyers into a sporting incident, absolutely disgraceful honestly, now I remember what I hated this team so much...

KingVoid

41% will share that opinion, not everyone Meaningless argument. Let's make the same poll in a Dutch speaking forum and let's see what they think. It’s a very similar spread to drivers, current and ex that have spoken on the matter. Seems about 50/50 with racing incident and mainly Hamiltons fault. ...

KingVoid

There seems to be some rumours on social media about Red Bull getting lawyers involved… Very very shameful from red bull bosses. Insinuating that it was a deliberate act and now bringing lawyers into a sporting incident, absolutely disgraceful honestly, now I remember what I hated this team so much...

KingVoid

There seems to be some rumours on social media about Red Bull getting lawyers involved… Very very shameful from red bull bosses. Insinuating that it was a deliberate act and now bringing lawyers into a sporting incident, absolutely disgraceful honestly, now I remember what I hated this team so much...

KingVoid

I expect the inside line to every corner to be more hotly contested than Gaza. Trouble will only emerge though when the slower car gets it. T1's on tracks that allow a favourable outcome when cutting it will also be a thing later in the year when a car gets its nose in front,thanks to Masi's nonsen...

KingVoid

If Red Bull's lawyers can convince the FIA to allow them to change their totaled engine without a penalty, that would be a useful move. I doubt they can though, the rules are fairly strict on this stuff.

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