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KingVoid

Mercedes didn't have a dominant car in 2019 certainly not against the illegally engined Ferrari, if they had not cheated then Hamilton would have won far more races. In 2020 he won 11 out of the 16 races he competed in, the final race he clearly hadn't fully recovered from Covid. Ratchet that up to...

KingVoid

Lewis is not GOAT, so you can rest your keyboard. This is actually something I've considered starting a thread on, but have held back for fear of it devolving into a toxic flame-fest that will make the mods hate me for my part in starting it :uhoh: Does anyone actually think Hamilton is the GOAT of...

KingVoid

Lewis is not GOAT, so you can rest your keyboard. This is actually something I've considered starting a thread on, but have held back for fear of it devolving into a toxic flame-fest that will make the mods hate me for my part in starting it :uhoh: Does anyone actually think Hamilton is the GOAT of...

KingVoid

You are fixated on one race on a weekend, if I were to nitpick Verstappen’s career like that, he wouldn’t have a great season left. I’m talking about general trends. Hamilton won 22 races out of 37 race finishes from 2019-2020 despite driving by far the best car in this time period, and having a mi...

KingVoid

Hamilton won 22 races out of 37 race finishes from 2019-2020 despite driving by far the best car in this time period, and having a midfield driver as his teammate. He also had bulletproof reliability and his car never failed in even one qualifying session to compromise his weekend. In these perfect...

KingVoid

My estimation for Verstappen is that he probably wins about 30 races out of 37 if he was driving the 2019/2020 Mercedes cars instead of Hamilton. 16 wins out of 21 in the W10 14 wins out of 16 starts in the W11 Based on what we’ve seen from Verstappen in the best car, this seems quite reasonable an...

KingVoid

My estimation for Verstappen is that he probably wins about 30 races out of 37 if he was driving the 2019/2020 Mercedes cars instead of Hamilton. 16 wins out of 21 in the W10 14 wins out of 16 starts in the W11 Based on what we’ve seen from Verstappen in the best car, this seems quite reasonable an...

KingVoid

My estimation for Verstappen is that he probably wins about 30 races out of 37 if he was driving the 2019/2020 Mercedes cars instead of Hamilton. 16 wins out of 21 in the W10 14 wins out of 16 starts in the W11 Based on what we’ve seen from Verstappen in the best car, this seems quite reasonable and...

KingVoid

In any conditions what happened in the wet sprint qualifying when Hamilton out qualified Verstappen in a car that was close to a second slower in the dry. I have seen Hamilton qualify 5 whole seconds off pole in a W11 when the tyres couldn’t get into the window over one lap. I don’t even know why I...

KingVoid

I am talking about the big gap he has. For that he needs to get 'some' credit I said, not all. Some make it sound like if he was closer to Perez, it would be seen more successful. Like I say, he is a victim of his own success at this point... To be honest, this is nothing but arguing over semantics...

KingVoid

Mercedes chose not to take Hamilton’s penalty (for his pit lane entry after breaking the front wing) when a later safety car or virtual safety car was called. They took it under full racing conditions. He’d have been P5/6 after the penalty had they took it then rather than P12. The mistakes Mercede...

KingVoid

Could have predicted that top end F1 salaries would rise post budget cap, especially now most teams are running on a surplus.

KingVoid

Yes, not just for title though, also for the big gap he has. Like I say, he should get some credit to getting and operating the car at that level. He is just victim of his own success at this point. Your comparison was that anyone could be champion in the Mercedes, clearly anyone could have been ch...

KingVoid

Why can you not read what I said, I didn't say in a worse car just a Keystone Kops strategy team. Germany 2019 where Hamilton told the team it was raining but the team put him on dry tyres because the computer told them it was dry. Even after that horrendous pit stop/crash he was still in 5th place...

KingVoid

You know I would just love it if Verstappen went to Mercedes, not to put him in a worse car but to have to put up with all the gaffes the team makes, after being used to near perfection at Red Bull it would surely fry his brain, this has a feel of Horner believing he's the most important person at ...

KingVoid

Yes, not just for title though, also for the big gap he has. Like I say, he should get some credit to getting and operating the car at that level. He is just victim of his own success at this point. Your comparison was that anyone could be champion in the Mercedes, clearly anyone could have been ch...

KingVoid

This always come up but doesnt this make Max even more succesful ? Lewis' teammates could easily take #2 and/or wins in the same car, meaning anyone could be champions in those cars. Whereas Max dominates with a car where #2 mostly struggles. Even if you go with the idea that car is designed for hi...

KingVoid

Perez finished second despite bad driving because his team was so much better than the other teams. Red Bull have gifted Verstappen dozens of wins by providing a superior car combined with a superior team performance and by putting a midfielder in the second. Driving for any other team, Verstappen ...

KingVoid

The idea that Red Bull is an operational superteam who don’t make mistakes, throw away wins, etc… is a myth. Verstappen just has a level of consistency that makes Hamilton look inconsistent by comparison, which people incorrectly attribute to Red Bull. You know I would just love it if Verstappen we...

KingVoid

The idea that Red Bull is an operational superteam who don’t make mistakes, throw away wins, etc… is a myth. Verstappen just has a level of consistency that makes Hamilton look inconsistent by comparison, which people incorrectly attribute to Red Bull. You know I would just love it if Verstappen we...

KingVoid

The idea that Red Bull is an operational superteam who don’t make mistakes, throw away wins, etc… is a myth. Verstappen just has a level of consistency that makes Hamilton look inconsistent by comparison, which people incorrectly attribute to Red Bull. I really disagree with this downtalking of Red...

KingVoid

The idea that Red Bull is an operational superteam who don’t make mistakes, throw away wins, etc… is a myth. Verstappen just has a level of consistency that makes Hamilton look inconsistent by comparison, which people incorrectly attribute to Red Bull. I really disagree with this downtalking of Red...

KingVoid

The idea that Red Bull is an operational superteam who don’t make mistakes, throw away wins, etc… is a myth. Verstappen just has a level of consistency that makes Hamilton look inconsistent by comparison, which people incorrectly attribute to Red Bull.

KingVoid

lets put that into words: VER is napping at 1st place in a dominating car since years, with a a very bad teammate. Excuses. Hamilton had the same circumstances in 2019 and 2020 and simply couldn’t do it. In 2019 he won only 11 races out of 21 (a touch above 50%) in a car in which Bottas comfortably...

KingVoid

lets put that into words: VER is napping at 1st place in a dominating car since years, with a a very bad teammate. Excuses. Hamilton had the same circumstances in 2019 and 2020 and simply couldn’t do it. In 2019 he won only 11 races out of 21 (a touch above 50%) in a car in which Bottas comfortably...

KingVoid

yes. Arguing that Red Bull had a better car than Ferrari in 2019 makes you lose any credibility you may have left, because it’s blatantly obvious to anyone who watched that season, that this simply isn’t true. I'm just getting tired by your agenda, cherry picking, twisting and turning and spinning ...

KingVoid

The primary reason why I see Verstappen as the best driver of the modern era, is because relative to the quality of his cars. he wins at a rate that is unprecedented in F1 history. From 2016-2020, Red Bull was mostly the third best car while Mercedes were miles clear of them every season, and yet V...

KingVoid

No, I would say they were 3rd best in 2022 over the course of the season. For several races they had the second best car though (best car in Brazil). Was the RB the second best car in 2019? Was the RB even the second best car in 2020? The "pink Mercedes" was pretty good in the hands of Checo and St...

KingVoid

in 30% of the races Merc finished behind RB, 1 out of those is Sainz making an error and Leclerc DNF. does that mean it was 2nd best car ? Ferrari got 4 wins for example and Merc 1 lucky one. No, I would say they were 3rd best in 2022 over the course of the season. For several races they had the se...

KingVoid

Mercedes clearly was the third best car early in 2022 (behind Ferrari and Red Bull), and by mid-season they were often the first team behind RB in races. In the following races only RB were ahead of Mercedes: Spain (3-5 finish with Charles DNF) Baku (Ferrari double DNF) France (2-3 finish, Lewis 2n...

KingVoid

and Mercedes has worst form currently that Red bull had in 2019/20, based on: I view f1 non stop, and I can see. Red Bull was always good for 2nd/3rd in those years, while Mercedes needs to luck into even the podium. Mercedes clearly was the third best car early in 2022 (behind Ferrari and Red Bull...

KingVoid

I find it odd that you think racing is about the guy having track position should give it up just because Max is threatening him with a crash. I find it odd that Max said he knew he was not gonna have space, yet he didnt back out. Lewis put out the marker that no more divebombs he will allow for Ma...

KingVoid

and Mercedes has worst form currently that Red bull had in 2019/20, based on: I view f1 non stop, and I can see. Red Bull was always good for 2nd/3rd in those years, while Mercedes needs to luck into even the podium. Mercedes clearly was the third best car early in 2022 (behind Ferrari and Red Bull...

KingVoid

Driver A teammates: Alonso, Kovalainen, Button, Rosberg, Bottas, Russell Driver B teammates: Sainz, Ricciardo, (Gasly), Albon, Perez (...) not a full season Take a driver of the same ability/quality: which teammate group would you expect him to dominate more strongly? I'm talking about Verstappen i...

KingVoid

of course I think it otherwise, Verstappen was best aleady in his mother's womb. Winning 3 races with the distant third best car, and outscoring both Leclerc and Vettel with a clearly inferior car, is quite a bit more impressive than winning 11 races out of 21 with a car that was easily the best ov...

KingVoid

nah, no way, he was best even before he was born. He was easily the best driver in 2019, more than happy to debate this with anyone who thinks otherwise. of course I think it otherwise, Verstappen was best aleady in his mother's womb. Winning 3 races with the distant third best car, and outscoring ...

KingVoid

Ironically, just above that one, you posted how Verstappen moans in the exactly same way if it doesn't go well for him. (False claim about RB being a midfield car already rejected by others.) The difference is that while Verstappen moans about the handling of his car, he doesn't use that as an excu...

KingVoid

Ironically, just above that one, you posted how Verstappen moans in the exactly same way if it doesn't go well for him. (False claim about RB being a midfield car already rejected by others.) The difference is that whilst moaning Verstappen drove the hell out of his car, won races in it and was so ...

KingVoid

that or he is just doing a Vettel, and it will all shatter in a car built under different regulations. He was already the best driver in 2019, when the cars were completely different to now. nah, no way, he was best even before he was born. He was easily the best driver in 2019, more than happy to ...

KingVoid

I really wish Verstappen goes to Merc, but looking at the way Toto is bending over backwards to bring Max to the team, I fear that under some pressure by Jos he may also give verstappen number 1 status on his contract, something Merc has never done, but Toto is looking desperate and is not acting r...

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