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Perez for purely selfish purposes

We know based on 2013 that Perez and Button are dead even in qualifying, so Perez vs Verstappen will give us a good indication of how Verstappen stacks up against Hamilton on ultimate pace.

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Rosberg and Bottas drove different cars, still dont think this year is as dominant as 14-16 , plus Bottas is driving against a better Hamilton. Bottas would have picked up quite a few wins from reliability and better starts. Theres also 2015 when Hamilton qualified on pole 11 times out of the first...

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Rosberg and Bottas drove different cars, still dont think this year is as dominant as 14-16 , plus Bottas is driving against a better Hamilton. Bottas would have picked up quite a few wins from reliability and better starts. Theres also 2015 when Hamilton qualified on pole 11 times out of the first...

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The thing that gets me about Bottas is that he has 8 race wins since he joined Mercedes in 2017. Looked up Nico's stats[1], the last three he was there (2014 to 2016), and in that period he had 20 race wins. Then again clearly Hamilton has stepped up a level. One thing about Hamilton now is that he...

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In the past, Rosberg’s record against Hamilton was always discredited because Mercedes was more dominant in his days. Well now in 2020, Mercedes have matched their dominance from 2014-2016, so now Bottas is in a very similar position to what Rosberg was then. The excuses for Bottas are running out. ...

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At this stage I'm wondering how many drivers on the grid would be doing a better job than Bottas and if it's many, or if it's only a few and that going up against Hamilton doesn't flatter him. The thing that gets me about Bottas is that he has 8 race wins since he joined Mercedes in 2017. Verstappe...

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I can see how my wording can be confusing so I'll ask again: Who else on the grid (or in recent-ish F1 history) has better race pace than Hamilton? I think that Schumacher and Alonso at their peak had every bit of the relentless race pace that Hamilton possesses. Verstappen is still a bit of a myst...

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Race will be decided at turn 1

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There’s naturally a lot of uncertainly surrounding Russell. Do we really know how good he is when his only opponents are a post-injury Kubica and Lattifi? I remember reading a piece of Mark Hughes some time ago, where he said that he spoke to some Williams engineers who claimed that Russell would be...

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Based on a combination of cross comparisons and gut feeling:

1. Verstappen
2. Hamilton
3. Leclerc
4. Ricciardo
5. Russell

I think that Max has about a tenth over the rest of the grid in equal machinery.

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Unlike Hamilton, who took the blame for missing the signs and has moved on, you don't appear to have. Anyway........ Well, if Hamilton is to blame for his Monza result, then Verstappen is clearly the driver of the season so far (IMO). I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. What I'm saying is ...

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Good news for Bottas is that it is a very long run down to turn 1. He needs to make a good start and if he finds himself tucked up behind Lewis or alongside going into turn 1 he has to brake later no matter what. It's a simple as that. I would be utterly astounded if Bottas does anything at the sta...

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Asphalt_World wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:20 pm
Unlike Hamilton, who took the blame for missing the signs and has moved on, you don't appear to have. Anyway........

Well, if Hamilton is to blame for his Monza result, then Verstappen is clearly the driver of the season so far (IMO).

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If Stroll beats Vettel then something has gone wrong in the universe. Depends what you mean by beat. I fully expect Vettel to crush the qualifying battle and finish ahead far more often. As for the final standings, the thing is... Stroll tends to luck into good results. He nearly beat Massa in 2017...

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Seanie wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:46 pm
I agree, maybe implement it for 2021 to compensate for the delay of the regulation changes.

What harm will it do, really...?

That’s exactly what I’m thinking

Implement it for 2021 and then drop it for the new regulation changes

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Race starts seems a bit spurious, racecraft surely includes mistakes, not a Vettel strong point, qualifying is important for the race start, an area were Webber didn't overly trouble Vettel, however i will give it that Vettel has better race pace. Regarding Bottas' racecraft: can you recall a singl...

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Let's address the elephant in the room: the reason why FIA and Liberty are pushing so hard for reverse grid races is because of Mercedes domination. There's a lot of rule changes planned for 2022, but that still leaves 2021. As it stands right now, Mercedes have a huge advantage locked in for next s...

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Race starts seems a bit spurious, racecraft surely includes mistakes, not a Vettel strong point, qualifying is important for the race start, an area were Webber didn't overly trouble Vettel, however i will give it that Vettel has better race pace. Regarding Bottas' racecraft: can you recall a singl...

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I wouldn't rule out Hamilton's records being broken if we go up to a 25 race season. Liberty want even more than that. Hamilton will win 8 world titles minimum. He has already won 2020 and 2021 is all but guaranteed. Who knows what will happen after that. Do you really think that 8 world titles are...

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I don’t believe that the records that Hamilton will set will ever be broken. That’s because I don’t believe that the FIA will ever allow another team to dominate like Mercedes again. The budget cap alone will make domination tenfold harder. Mercedes comfortably outspend everyone apart from Ferrari. ...

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Vettel does also make a lot more mistakes than Bottas as well. I think they're pretty close. Depends. Are you talking about Vettel at his best or Vettel now? People often talk about prime Raikkonen (2003-2006) and the current Raikkonen in different terms because they are almost considered two diffe...

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Vettel does also make a lot more mistakes than Bottas as well. I think they're pretty close. Depends. Are you talking about Vettel at his best or Vettel now? People often talk about prime Raikkonen (2003-2006) and the current Raikkonen in different terms because they are almost considered two diffe...

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The problem I have with Ilott is that he’s won absolutely nothing so far in his junior career. He raced three seasons in F3 and then another season in GP3. His best result in those years is a distant 3rd place finish in the GP3 championship. He’s also born in 1998 which makes him older than his cham...

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I still think that Vettel at his best (2011-2013 or 2015 or even 2017) is comfortably a better driver than Bottas. Bottas is more like Rubens or Webber. How do you rate Rosberg vs Vettel? Vettel>Rosberg>>Bottas/Rubens/Webber? I think that Vettel and Rosberg are overall at a similar level looking at...

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Leclerc has already matched Alonso’s podium tally of 2014

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In terms of talent and potential, I rate the F2 drivers something like this:

1. Lungaard
2. Tsunoda
3. Shwartzman
4. Schumacher
5. Ticktum

Honorable mentions to Mazepin and Zhou.

You have to look at age, experience and results as the three key factors.

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The only way Albon could be better than Bottas is if Verstappen is a far, far better driver than Hamilton. I don't think that's true. In my opinion, in terms of ultimate speed: Verstappen > Hamilton >>> Bottas >> Gasly >> Albon Each > represents roughly half a tenth. I'd say you need to move Bottas...

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People saying Bottas is fighting Max for P2 in the WDC and Rosberg was doing much better. Do you forget who Hamilton won the WDC from in 2015? When he sealed the title, he sealed it because he was over 75 points ahead of Vettel in the WDC. Vettel was 2nd in the WDC in 2015 after 17 races. The Merce...

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mikeyg123 wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:15 pm
The only way Albon could be better than Bottas is if Verstappen is a far, far better driver than Hamilton.

I don't think that's true.

In my opinion, in terms of ultimate speed:

Verstappen > Hamilton >>> Bottas >> Gasly >> Albon

Each > represents roughly half a tenth.

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Well, whatever is called ordinary ... ;-) Massa = Räikkönen Bottas as a rookie was better than Massa almost like Vettel was ahead of Räikkönen. That Albon or Kvyat even come close to the level of Massa and Räikkönen, not to speak of Bottas, is not supported at all by empirical evidence. And as much...

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I remember drivers getting disqualified for a similar offence around 2007-08 when the pitlane was closed with every safety car. Massa and Fisichella got disqualified for leaving the pitlane when the light was red after they'd pitted, not for what Hamilton/Giovinazzi did. Alonso and Rosberg got the ...

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I still think that Vettel at his best (2011-2013 or 2015 or even 2017) is comfortably a better driver than Bottas. Bottas is more like Rubens or Webber. How do you rate Rosberg vs Vettel? Vettel>Rosberg>>Bottas/Rubens/Webber? I think that Vettel and Rosberg are overall at a similar level looking at...

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I remember drivers getting disqualified for a similar offence around 2007-08 when the pitlane was closed with every safety car.

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I still think that Vettel at his best (2011-2013 or 2015 or even 2017) is comfortably a better driver than Bottas. Bottas is more like Rubens or Webber. How do you rate Rosberg vs Vettel? Vettel>Rosberg>>Bottas/Rubens/Webber? I think that Vettel and Rosberg are overall at a similar level looking at...

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I still think that Vettel at his best (2011-2013 or 2015 or even 2017) is comfortably a better driver than Bottas.

Bottas is more like Rubens or Webber.

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Bottas' performance was definitely extremely dull, but Albon finished 15th. They both had very bad days today, but Bottas has had many solid days this season, on a Saturday as well as a Sunday. Yea but Bottas has equal machinery compared to Hamilton and never ever challenges him during the race, on...

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Bottas' performance was definitely extremely dull, but Albon finished 15th. They both had very bad days today, but Bottas has had many solid days this season, on a Saturday as well as a Sunday. Yea but Bottas has equal machinery compared to Hamilton and never ever challenges him during the race, on...

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Gasly, Sainz and Ricciardo

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I feel like this is said pretty much every race right now, but Bottas his to win to keep his championship hopes alive. I'd like to see him get aggressive from the start, take a risk or two. There is a bigger chance of Verstappen beating Bottas than there is of Bottas winning the WDC. Which is hard ...

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I feel like this is said pretty much every race right now, but Bottas his to win to keep his championship hopes alive. I'd like to see him get aggressive from the start, take a risk or two. He needs to. Bottas cannot afford to be in any other position than 1st after the end of the first lap and he ...

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