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by KingVoid
Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:09 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

I'd add that many of those same people, also felt that Vettel was a little bit overrated at the time, as the success in his early career flattered him a little. I still think with the right car he would beat most on the grid, but I have also been fairly confident that there were 2-3, and since Dani...
by KingVoid
Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:40 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

Ah, my bad - I forgot you were a representation of the entire British population. My whole understanding of the world has changed. Do you live in the UK? Where I live is irrelevant. Although you living in the UK clearly explains a lot. Wow just wow, I never report posts, kind of my upbringing. Good...
by KingVoid
Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:24 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Great Big 2021 A > B > C Thread
Replies: 75
Views: 3062

Re: The Great Big 2021 A > B > C Thread

One of my most unpopular Formula 1 opinions is that Ricciardo is as good as Hamilton at everything apart from driving in the rain. Qualifying pace, race pace, racecraft, consistency, tyre management... Ric is as good as Ham Ham has one clear advantage, and that is wet weather driving (even Seb was s...
by KingVoid
Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:08 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Great Big 2021 A > B > C Thread
Replies: 75
Views: 3062

Re: The Great Big 2021 A > B > C Thread

Okay, I've finished up a few more using my own methodology: Ricciardo / Hulk, Ricciardo / Ocon, Hulk / Sainz, and also Hulk / Perez. This is enough to start making my own predictions, but for now here are the comparisons themselves: Ricciardo > Hulkenberg: (2019) 0.171% Hungary Q1 HUL -0.604% Austr...
by KingVoid
Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:02 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

The more I delve into the world of qualifying gaps and cross comparisons, the less impressed I am by Hamilton (relative to his reputation). Schumacher, Verstappen and Leclerc all have more than a tenth in hand over Hamilton according to my data. Schumacher between 0.148-0.172% depending on whether y...
by KingVoid
Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:21 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

1. Russell did not beat Bottas, neither in qualifying nor in the race. Shows how straw man your argument is... No point responding to this How? I am just correcting a wrong statement by you. It is a fact that Russell did not beat Bottas. Bottas was on pole and finished ahead in the race. Please get...
by KingVoid
Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:17 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

1. Russell did not beat Bottas, neither in qualifying nor in the race. 2. Bottas is better than many of Schumacher's teammates. Bottas beat Massa as teammates. Massa's deficit to Schumacher was not significantly different than Barrichello's and Irvine's. Thus, it is plausible that Bottas > Massa = ...
by KingVoid
Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:50 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

in a very non aggressive fashion would like to post this https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-verstappen-lewis-hamilton-george-russell/ I think you guys fail to see the truth here.. how can you get around the fact that a junior driver with a few hours of driving time beats your second driver who has b...
by KingVoid
Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:58 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

Your mileage may vary, but competing in a car that breaks the rules is the opposite of a level playing field. Also, Leclerc is far from the finished article. He would have won three races out of six in 2019 (Bahrain Grand Prix engine failure notwithstanding) but he lost Singapore on merit to Vettel...
by KingVoid
Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:56 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

Mercedes had the best car in 2020, there is no doubt about it, but Red Bull, Honda and - at the end of the season, Verstappen - made it look better than it was. Max would have won in Austria had Verstappen not retired, given that Albon would have won if he hadn't collided with Hamilton. This would ...
by KingVoid
Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:25 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

[quote="KingVoid Schumacher's group of challengers you selected in equal machinery have 4 WDCs and 5 runners up. Hamilton's group of challengers you selected have 6 WDCs and 8 runners up positions. Even if you normalise, that's 4.5/6. Schumacher's list contains the two drivers who most consider the...
by KingVoid
Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:01 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

My opinion on this is very clear The grid from 2014-2020 was more talented than in Schumacher’s time, but that is completely meaningless because all the best drivers from 2014-2020 were stuck in hugely inferior machinery. Say what you want about Hill, Villeneuve and Hakkinen - they all had a fair sh...
by KingVoid
Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:06 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

My view on this hasn't changed from the time it was happening some 20 years ago now which I viewed as the dark ages of F1 because of the dearth in talent. Hamilton has done the majority of his winning in an era that was even weaker than those days. From 2014-2021, there have only been five drivers ...
by KingVoid
Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:54 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

My view on this hasn't changed from the time it was happening some 20 years ago now which I viewed as the dark ages of F1 because of the dearth in talent. Hamilton has done the majority of his winning in an era that was even weaker than those days. From 2014-2021, there have only been five drivers ...
by KingVoid
Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:28 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

My view on this hasn't changed from the time it was happening some 20 years ago now which I viewed as the dark ages of F1 because of the dearth in talent. Hamilton has done the majority of his winning in an era that was even weaker than those days. From 2014-2021, there have only been five drivers ...
by KingVoid
Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:13 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Are the for Schumacher/Barrichello/Button/Massa fuel adjusted? For Schumacher vs Barrichello, I only looked at data from 2000-2002. It's borderline impossible to do any qualifying data analysis from 2003-2005 because of the horrible single lap with race fuel format. Schumacher vs Massa is fuel adju...
by KingVoid
Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:42 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Schumacher-Barrichello-Button-Hamilton is probably the best cross comparison we have between prime Schumacher and Hamilton, and it points to Schumacher as the superior driver. Out of curiosity, since I haven't done the numbers myself, what does it say? Hamilton > Button by 0.274% Schumacher > Ruben...
by KingVoid
Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:12 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

When you mention Schumacher's neurological damage, why do you remain silent on Hakkinen's? Without Adelaide, Schumacher would have a much more relentless opposition. Hamilton fought significant more competitive teammates. Alonso, Rosberg, arguably Button are all better than Schumacher's teammates. ...
by KingVoid
Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:01 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Prime Schumacher in the MP4-26 would have put Vettel under enough pressure that he likely would have cracked. The MP4-26 won 6 races and easily could have won a few more. In the hands of peak Schumacher (1996-1998), that’s title contending machinery. One may argue the same for prime Hamilton. I thi...
by KingVoid
Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:53 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

Prime Schumacher in the MP4-26 would have put Vettel under enough pressure that he likely would have cracked.

The MP4-26 won 6 races and easily could have won a few more.

In the hands of peak Schumacher (1996-1998), that’s title contending machinery.
by KingVoid
Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:14 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

I don’t think that Hamilton 2009-2013 was as good as Schumacher 1996-98. To echo pokerman's point: Schumacher competition 1996-1998: Damon Hill, Jacques Villeneuve, Mika Hakkinen, Heinz-Harald Frentzen, David Coulthard Hamilton's competition 2009-2013: Jenson Button, Sebastian Vettel, Mark Webber, ...
by KingVoid
Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:03 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

I don’t think that Hamilton 2009-2013 was as good as Schumacher 1996-98. To echo pokerman's point: Schumacher competition 1996-1998: Damon Hill, Jacques Villeneuve, Mika Hakkinen, Heinz-Harald Frentzen, David Coulthard Hamilton's competition 2009-2013: Jenson Button, Sebastian Vettel, Mark Webber, ...
by KingVoid
Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:31 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 478
Views: 5929

Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

Note from Moderation Team - the posts in this topic originally started in the The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton Thread - so some of the early posts may refer to some discussion in there. I tried to split the thread at a point where the discussion had fully diverged. -Mod Aqua Also worth noting that w...
by KingVoid
Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:28 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread
Replies: 4749
Views: 992256

Re: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread

2010 was joint-second best car with Ferrari

2013 was joint-second best car with Ferrari and Lotus
by KingVoid
Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:25 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Mercedes unbeatable?
Replies: 104
Views: 9756

Re: Is Mercedes unbeatable?

Well, I don't know how Pirelli's new generation of tyres will change competitiveness - let alone if at all. Hardly anyone expected the tyre rule changes for 2005 not to suit Bridgestone. But apart from that, even taking 2005 out of the equation, nobody expected 2004 to be Schumcher's final title at...
by KingVoid
Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Mercedes unbeatable?
Replies: 104
Views: 9756

Re: Is Mercedes unbeatable?

Look I appreciate it's better to have a closer fight at the front but you can't really manufacture that and still call it F1. Of course you can, deliberately nerfing the team that dominates the sport has happened plenty of times. I was OK with Hamilton dominating in 2014 and 2015 because those were...
by KingVoid
Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:49 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Mercedes unbeatable?
Replies: 104
Views: 9756

Re: Is Mercedes unbeatable?

Look I appreciate it's better to have a closer fight at the front but you can't really manufacture that and still call it F1. Of course you can, deliberately nerfing the team that dominates the sport has happened plenty of times. I was OK with Hamilton dominating in 2014 and 2015 because those were...
by KingVoid
Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:49 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Mercedes unbeatable?
Replies: 104
Views: 9756

Re: Is Mercedes unbeatable?

Brundle doesn’t think that either Mercedes or Hamilton are slowing down anytime soon. In fact, he predicts Hamilton to retire with 10 world titles:

https://www.planetf1.com/news/lewis-ham ... ip-record/
by KingVoid
Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:01 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 - Exciting lineup & intra-team battles!
Replies: 29
Views: 1441

Re: 2021 - Exciting lineup & intra-team battles!

There are some interesting little subplots here. Perez and Sainz, two drivers seen as midfield generals have chances to prove they can be more than that. Carlos Sainz had it all his own way at McLaren really. The team had pitifully low expectations when he arrived and he was up against a rookie tea...
by KingVoid
Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:25 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 - Exciting lineup & intra-team battles!
Replies: 29
Views: 1441

Re: 2021 - Exciting lineup & intra-team battles!

I rate Hamilton and Verstappen at the same level with Leclerc half a step behind because he makes more unforced errors.

I rate Perez higher than Sainz and Bottas.

Therefore:

1. Red Bull
2. Mercedes
3. Ferrari

Although it’s close
by KingVoid
Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:33 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 211
Views: 9553

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

If every team has equal resources, nobody is going to dominate like Mercedes 2014-2021. The only way to achieve that level of dominance over such a long period of time is by outspending most of your rivals. We will see who's proven right. A cursory glance at team budgets only sees Mercedes the top ...
by KingVoid
Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:53 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 211
Views: 9553

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

Unfortunately for Max because he decided to enter F1 at such a young age he's already faced defeat twice, and regarding Hamilton's 2011 season well Max's 2017 season, his 3rd in F1, wasn't too dissimilar. The argument is what we can consider as being prime years, drivers seem to mature in different...
by KingVoid
Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:31 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 211
Views: 9553

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

FIA will never allow another team to dominate like Mercedes 2014-2021 ever again. Of course they will, especially if the dominance is rooted in all-round excellence rather than loopholes. There is nothing you can ban on any of the Mercedes W Hybrid cars that would bring the field closer (besides th...
by KingVoid
Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:23 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?
Replies: 211
Views: 9553

Re: Is Hamilton ruining Max’s legacy?

I’ve moved topics because I feel this discussion is more appropriate here though Max has been excellent, I get the impression that he lost some of his new shine and lustre this year and Hamilton gained some of his own due to the gravitas of his achievements in tying or eclipsing the most important r...
by KingVoid
Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:07 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread
Replies: 4749
Views: 992256

Re: The Official Lewis Hamilton thread

In the case of Max and Lewis, it seems the opinion will change very slowly. Max matured and put in an excellent season in 2019 and was seen as 2nd to Lewis generally, and both have maintained position for 2020. Perhaps 2021 will finally see Max overhaul Lewis in public perception after chipping awa...
by KingVoid
Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:16 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread
Replies: 4749
Views: 992256

Re: The Official Lewis Hamilton thread

I disagree with your conclusion. In recent times the big reg changes 2014, 2009, 2005, 1998 and 1994 have given us much closer fields. 2009 being the closest field ever, 2005 ended the Ferrari dominance and 98 and 94 both ending Williams dominance. Generally rule stability leads to one team stretch...
by KingVoid
Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:14 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread
Replies: 4749
Views: 992256

Re: The Official Lewis Hamilton thread

Financial spending has never guaranteed success in F1. The top spending team has only won the WCC about 40% of the time. Toyota and BMW spent fortunes in the early 2000s for a single win and some pole positions. Not every team that spent big money dominated, but every team that dominates spent big ...
by KingVoid
Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:40 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread
Replies: 4749
Views: 992256

Re: The Official Lewis Hamilton thread

I disagree with your conclusion. In recent times the big reg changes 2014, 2009, 2005, 1998 and 1994 have given us much closer fields. 2009 being the closest field ever, 2005 ended the Ferrari dominance and 98 and 94 both ending Williams dominance. Generally rule stability leads to one team stretch...
by KingVoid
Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:33 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Great Big 2021 A > B > C Thread
Replies: 75
Views: 3062

Re: The Great Big 2021 A > B > C Thread

The gap I’m least confident about is Alonso vs Ocon, too many factors to consider.
by KingVoid
Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:33 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: The Official Sir Lewis Hamilton thread
Replies: 4749
Views: 992256

Re: The Official Lewis Hamilton thread

F1Tyrant you are arguing with a straw-man, not me. I never said that Mercedes are only dominant because of engine power. They obviously have a phenomenal chassis as well. However, with spec engines, there is no doubt that Red Bull would have challenged for at least a couple of world titles. Therefor...