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by Option or Prime
Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:41 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton/Verstappen British GP 2021 Collision Discussion
Replies: 524
Views: 18065

Re: Forum verdict on the Hamilton/Verstappen collision

I've read that Honda have taken Verstappen's engine from Silverstone to check for damage, though they believe that it is OK. Interesting, will RB risk it? Ferrari thought Leclerc engine was OK and it went bang. Can engines remain enscathed after a 51G collision with a barrier? Do Red Bull risk it a...
by Option or Prime
Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:23 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Mercedes vs Red Bull - 2021
Replies: 659
Views: 33522

Re: Mercedes vs Red Bull - 2021

So Red Bull are introducing a new dynamic to the argument now, money sitting the crash cost the £1.3 million. This is taking whinging and moaning to new levels Mr Horner. They will be sueing Pirelli next because the tyres don't last the race. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/57949190 This couple...
by Option or Prime
Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:38 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 British Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 490
Views: 15616

Re: 2021 British Grand Prix Race Thread

So which set of fans would post racist abuse towards Lewis Hamilton then I wonder? . If ever you wanted to motivate someone that would be the way, I'd suggest. My thought was that it was Hamilton drawing a line in the sand. Surprised at the whinging and suggestions of a race ban by RB and others. Ve...
by Option or Prime
Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:14 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 Azerbaijan Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 220
Views: 9454

Re: 2021 Azerbaijan Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

But this is a procedure that's about safety, not rules for the sake of it. You're literally arguing to reduce safety. Not sure that what is being said, a second or two earlier Norris would have pitted, In his head Norris though he was going too fast to enter the pit lane with its speed limits. Brak...
by Option or Prime
Thu May 27, 2021 3:35 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)

So either there will be no protest or even RB has grounds to protest against Mercedes. https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/85208/mercedes-can-t-say-anything-about-rb16b-footage-shows-flexible-front-wing-of-w12.html It's funny that they quote it as the RB16B front wing, when it is the Mercedes one in the...
by Option or Prime
Thu May 27, 2021 7:50 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Uncharacteristic errors from Hamilton and Verstappen
Replies: 439
Views: 17604

Re: Uncharacteristic errors from Hamilton and Verstappen

KingVoid wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 6:57 am
Verstappen’s errors have been minor and nitpicky compared to Hamilton’s Imola and Monaco.
Not sure the errors at Monaco were Hamilton's botched wheel changes on a team member's car indicate they are Mercedes' errors don't they.
by Option or Prime
Wed May 26, 2021 10:38 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)

A great article by Gary Anderson: https://the-race.com/formula-1/gary-anderson-why-red-bulls-flexi-wing-arguments-make-sense/ If I read this correctly, the deflection limit applies to all relevant parts - including the front wing - and, based on observations, Merc may just be shooting itself in the...
by Option or Prime
Mon May 24, 2021 3:51 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)

What I found interesting from Toto's Sky interview was the comment about the front wing. As a reminder he said that the Mercedes front wing and the Red Bull front wing flex the same amount. He further stated that they might protest each other. So Red Bull have a front and rear "Limbo wing" package. ...
by Option or Prime
Mon May 24, 2021 11:53 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)

Doesn't it prove the law is broken if you can see the wing moving then or does it have to be a physical process?
by Option or Prime
Sun May 23, 2021 3:22 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 Monaco Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 389
Views: 16199

Re: 2021 Monaco Grand Prix Race Thread

One of those are Monaco races where no VSC/SC scenario & where everyone were at their best behavior! Didn't at least 4 drivers get black and white flags, and some even for blue flags? I would say this is possibly the largest number of these we have seen in a race for many years. Many naughty driver...
by Option or Prime
Sun May 23, 2021 3:19 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 Monaco Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 389
Views: 16199

Re: 2021 Monaco Grand Prix Race Thread

Have to agree, when the only real excitement in the race is when a pit crew can't get a wheel off its a bit dire. Perez was miles faster than Land who had no tyres but still couldn't pass despite 12 laps of trying.

My solution, make the cars 30% smaller. I'm emailing Liberty Media now!
by Option or Prime
Sun May 23, 2021 11:14 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 Monaco Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Replies: 187
Views: 8110

Re: 2021 Monaco Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

according to racefans.net, Schumacher has got pole in Q3 and did a lap time of 0'00.000. Incredible! https://www.racefans.net/2021/05/22/leclerc-takes-pole-position-with-crash-in-monaco/#comment-4628107 Now that has to be literally the perfect lap :lol: I need to check out my quantum physics but ca...
by Option or Prime
Sun May 23, 2021 11:01 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 Monaco Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 389
Views: 16199

Re: 2021 Monaco Grand Prix Race Thread

Hamilton throwing his toys out of the pram . After all that rubbish about Verstappen having a point to prove. That pretty normal isn't it? Whats the difference between that and Verstappen saying on the radio, "you've got to sort this *****ng car out" or equivalent. Top teams don't stay top if you d...
by Option or Prime
Sun May 23, 2021 8:55 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Mercedes vs Red Bull - 2021
Replies: 659
Views: 33522

Re: Mercedes vs Red Bull - 2021

The rear wings are also monitored by cameras which let's the stewards know if the load tests are actually fit for purpose, in this instance seeing how much the rear wings are flexing on some cars they have realised that's not the case so a new test is to be introduced after the next race. It's writ...
by Option or Prime
Sun May 23, 2021 8:51 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)

So why are the cameras there then if not to ensure there is no deflection? Why are the FIA implementing a rule change mid June then? The aim is to prevent variable aerodynamics. All the technical specs in the world strive to achieve that but they failed to achieve their goal so need to be changed. A...
by Option or Prime
Sun May 23, 2021 8:38 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: 2021 Monaco Grand Prix Race Thread
Replies: 389
Views: 16199

Re: 2021 Monaco Grand Prix Race Thread

Anyone else get the feeling some of the top drivers might not actually finish? Track limits are quite strictly enforced here.
by Option or Prime
Sat May 22, 2021 8:54 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)

Only sort of though. Its simply how you measure the the "literal, objective technical objectives". The camera is there to observe the result, the law says it shouldn't flex under race conditions, the guide is an at rest measurement thats too low. If the teams complied with the criteria of the camera...
by Option or Prime
Sat May 22, 2021 9:56 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)

I think the answer is going to be that the video is cropped UU. You need to see the whole wing, is it different to other wings?
Its not different from the Mercedes wing a year ago, (see above).
by Option or Prime
Fri May 21, 2021 9:47 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Alex Brundle
Replies: 12
Views: 902

Re: Alex Brundle

First time I heard him I thought this guy is trying to imitate Brundle (didn't realise it was his son). He doesn't just 'sound' like him, he has the same mannerisms and some of the same phrases. Uncanny! Given the fact he has very, very similar DNA and the original as a role model its not that surp...
by Option or Prime
Fri May 21, 2021 4:17 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)

Its all Verstappen's fault anyway, if he hadn't overtaken Lewis in the first place he wouldn't have noticed the rear wing moved at all. ;) Didn't he bring it up after Spain qualy? Dastardly Verstappen, overtaking our Lewis like it's a Sunday drive. No wonder he doesn't have the stats that our Lewis...
by Option or Prime
Fri May 21, 2021 3:31 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)

Its all Verstappen's fault anyway, if he hadn't overtaken Lewis in the first place he wouldn't have noticed the rear wing moved at all. ;)
by Option or Prime
Fri May 21, 2021 3:26 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)

I've not got a great deal of understanding of technical things but I don't believe we are talking about the same thing, the whole structure of the Red Bull rear wing has been designed to drop lower at a greater speed then come back up again under braking, the equivalent of the front wing would be t...
by Option or Prime
Fri May 21, 2021 10:30 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)

Excellent explanation ATH, nice to have someone who not only understands it but gives a clear explanation. It will be interesting to see how all this pans out now. I'm not sure why the issue can't be addressed until after the GP where it will have the greatest influence but there may be a legitimate...
by Option or Prime
Fri May 21, 2021 8:16 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)

There's a vid from Portugal earlier in the thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R_fqI63ESU Is there an uncropped version of that video because with the edges cut out that looks no different to any front wing on a modern f1 car - see Verstappen‘s here: https://youtu.be/V2vGlUqVGQ0 That type of f...
by Option or Prime
Fri May 21, 2021 1:28 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)

10 Teams, 4 teams using it, 2 publicly objecting to it, 4 teams ........ watching, hiding, shy?
by Option or Prime
Thu May 20, 2021 5:41 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)

There's a vid from Portugal earlier in the thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R_fqI63ESU Is there an uncropped version of that video because with the edges cut out that looks no different to any front wing on a modern f1 car - see Verstappen‘s here: https://youtu.be/V2vGlUqVGQ0 That type of f...
by Option or Prime
Thu May 20, 2021 3:31 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)

The Mercedes front wing https://www.reddit.com/r/F1Technical/co ... ng_of_the/ was flexing like that a year ago, see comments and video so its not new.
by Option or Prime
Thu May 20, 2021 3:08 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)

Yeah, Sky just showed the Merc front wing bending at least as much as the Red Bull rear wing. Is there a link or a vid I wonder? There's a vid from Portugal earlier in the thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R_fqI63ESU Ah, thank you, there's quite a lot of flexing there. I think Mercedes also ...
by Option or Prime
Thu May 20, 2021 2:12 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)

Seidel and Wolff stating there are 4 teams running 'bendy rear wings' at the moment Red Bull, Ferrari. Alfa Remeo and ?

Mercedes might have a bendy front wing. The decision to delay testing has annoyed Seidel and Wolff. Not much FIA favouritism there obviously.

Wing test delay 'incomprehensible'
by Option or Prime
Wed May 19, 2021 10:07 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Who has more to prove?
Replies: 41
Views: 1641

Re: Who has more to prove?

I would say obviously Verstappen has more to prove, but it is illuminating to see Hamilton's insecurity and pompousness with his comments on this. “I think perhaps, as you know, he feels perhaps he has a lot to prove. I’m not necessarily in the same boat there. I’m more long term, kind of ‘it’s a m...
by Option or Prime
Wed May 19, 2021 8:57 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Who has more to prove?
Replies: 41
Views: 1641

Re: Who has more to prove?

I would say obviously Verstappen has more to prove, but it is illuminating to see Hamilton's insecurity and pompousness with his comments on this. “I think perhaps, as you know, he feels perhaps he has a lot to prove. I’m not necessarily in the same boat there. I’m more long term, kind of ‘it’s a m...
by Option or Prime
Tue May 18, 2021 3:09 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: McLaren will run Special livery at Monaco!
Replies: 21
Views: 1304

Re: McLaren will run Special livery at Monaco!

Nice livery, but... yawn already. Looks like a team in F1 has adopted a NASCAR "retro" or "throw-back" weekend color scheme, and that comparison isn't good. It truly is impossible to please some people... Actually I'm quite easy to please, just that when I reminisce of the period, the Gulf liveries...
by Option or Prime
Mon May 17, 2021 10:33 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Mercedes vs Red Bull - 2021
Replies: 659
Views: 33522

Re: Mercedes vs Red Bull - 2021

.......Christian Horner summing up my feelings on this so far: .... Horner expressed a weariness over Mercedes trying to deflect attention on to Red Bull by saying the challengers are favourites over the reigning champions......... Shouldn't Horner be expressing his weariness over Red Bull being fo...
by Option or Prime
Mon May 17, 2021 12:42 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: McLaren will run Special livery at Monaco!
Replies: 21
Views: 1304

Re: McLaren will run Special livery at Monaco!

I love it, its a one off in recognition of a renewed tie-up between Gulf Oil and McLaren last year, that tie up goes back to the 1960s.

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by Option or Prime
Sun May 16, 2021 1:20 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)

Helmut Marko has claimed even Alpine & Alfa Romeo are using flexible wings. https://f1i.com/news/405484-marko-red-bull-not-only-team-targeted-by-new-bendy-wing-tests.html I mentioned this at the start, which is why the trip into 'Mercedes get preferential treatment' thread seems just a personal cru...
by Option or Prime
Sat May 15, 2021 1:08 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)
Replies: 1535
Views: 47808

Re: Hamilton vs Schumacher and their contemporaries (split from Official Hamilton Thread)

Hamilton just does not need to be comforted by the whole team like Schumacher in order to rack up the records - that is a strength of him. What records did Hamilton hold or break when he had a top driver alongside him? As far as I’m aware, none. He might have held some obscure records here and ther...
by Option or Prime
Fri May 14, 2021 8:57 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)

Yeah if Max had won the race we probably would be asking how many races is he going to win with this wing before it gets banned, it harks back to the Vettel years were they would put something dodgy on the car win a race or two before the stewards cottoned on to what Red Bull were doing and then ba...
by Option or Prime
Thu May 13, 2021 10:20 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: FIA and Mercedes

Better video that Mayhem posted in the other thread. You have a grid which shows the difference. YBWUefSl5tI That's much clearer, I had trouble spotting it on the other video, thanks Clarky. Question for me is "How did it get noticed in the first place"? Bearing in mind it is only visible at high s...
by Option or Prime
Thu May 13, 2021 8:15 am
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Mercedes vs Red Bull - 2021
Replies: 659
Views: 33522

Re: Mercedes vs Red Bull - 2021

But Hamilton needs to stop opening the door on lap 1 for Max. Max needs to learn that he has to give more space and can't just push people off the circuit and expect to get away with it. Hamilton is currently leading the championship so if they both crash and DNF it's advantage Hamilton. So yeah......
by Option or Prime
Wed May 12, 2021 4:38 pm
Forum: F1 & Motorsport Forum
Topic: Red Bull's Bendy Rear Wing (split from FIA and Mercedes)
Replies: 196
Views: 8597

Re: FIA and Mercedes

If it is Mercedes that have noticed dodgy things. then good on them for bringing it up with the FIA. By the way, are there any pictures on-line that show what they are talking about? Sure - but when they do dodgy things it is considered innovation (such as DAS, which never should have been allowed ...