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I love this version of toto's email at 4:38

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I first thought that the votes for Bottas were a bit strange, but that said, this was hamilton's mistake, and it was big enough for him to retire if the outcome hadn't triggered a red flag. If it had, then Bottas will obviously have beaten him, and that may have brought many more votes, despite bein...

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deleted post - realised how off topic many of the posts including what i answered with was.

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Raikkonen over Giovinazzi -- I saw Hogweed's comments about Kimi potentially being at fault for the collision with Perez, and I reviewed some clips (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSujgsWOzXc). In my opinion, Kimi was entitled to space and got none, so I'm classifying it as Perez's fault and givin...

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does nobody think kimi tried to hang in there along side Perez when he should have known he'd lost out? He barely had his nose along side Perez's rear and should have seen that there was next to no chance of him keeping the position and he had plenty of time to back out. Notice how norris doesn't wa...

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Quoting the channel 4 commentators of webber and coulthard after they see the penalty. Webber: "Soft" Coulthard: "Controversial" Webber: " Very soft penalty in my opinion" Coulthard: "That is a controversial one if Russell gets 3 places (laughing)" It is quite clear that they thought that this simpl...

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IMOLA - red flag saves Hamilton BAKU - puncture costs Verstappen victory SILV - Verstappen taken out by a bonehead move from Hamilton who goes on to win the race When you look at the fortune for Hamilton and against Verstappen, it's incredible that Verstappen is still ahead in the standings. You ca...

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Bottas often hasn't been good at extending his stints and he said he would have gone longer if it wasn't for jumping Norris, but I don't think that will have made any difference. Though some drivers got away well, the commentators mentioned that for some reason, the inside line seemed to be the bett...

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Hamilton apparently will have had to retire if not for the red flag. The 2nd time this season where a red flag saved him from a very bad result instantly after his own mistakes. His recovery drives on both occations were great, but the luck hamilton seems to get after big mistakes is simply extreme ...

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Räikkönen, Leclerc and Verstappen. I'm still a bit critical of Verstappen's aggression, but that's what it seems to take if you don't have the superior car. Can't understand the votes for Kimi or Verstappen. Verstappen raced for a few corners and that was it. Kimi did well initially, but the commen...

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The 10 second penalty that Lewis got for the first lap incident seems very much in line with the other penalties that the FIA and the stewards have been handing out this year. The thing is, I think hamilton is the first one to get a penalty in the first lap in the last couple of years (excluding fa...

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Just rewatching with commentary as watched without earlier in the club house. Interesting to see none of the ex drivers commentating thought it was worthy of a penalty. Let alone an incident worthy of being compared to Schumacher in '94 webber and coulthard are ex drivers that were commentating for...

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Does any F1 fan actually believe Verstappen beat Hamilton to pole? well, he did what he needed to to qualify ahead, and he indeed did as he started in pole position. But strangely, Hamilton got a Pole position and victory statistic to his name! Work that one out..... as much as i don't like this qu...

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IDFD wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:03 pm
Does any F1 fan actually believe Verstappen beat Hamilton to pole?

well, he did what he needed to to qualify ahead, and he indeed did as he started in pole position.

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I'm sorry, but Chandok wondering if any penalty would have been given if it was a midfield incident and saying that 5 seconds would have been enough of a penalty, is just wrong. I truly believe a penalty would have been given regardless. Look at Russell in the Sprint. look at the thread i created f...

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this thread is clearly turning into mistakes being listed that hamilton is now often making. maybe the title needs changing

mistakes are starting to be more predictable with hamilton these days, despite his pace still clearly being there.

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Verstappen lost 25 points in baku and likely 25 here (if not, 18). Hamilton gained at least 10 in Imola after his mistake too due to extreme luck after the safety car. Verstappen certainly should be over 50 points ahead to be representetive. And even if we account for the fact the red bull has been ...

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hmm, just heard on channel 4 that bottas didn't have a drink. Are they talking about the tube in he car being disconnected or something?

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i simply can't deny the recovery drive from hamilton was outstanding. effectively 20 seconds ahead of Bottas if you ignored the penalty. Still, the level of mistakes hamilton is making is too many, and given he took his rival out, I still certainly don't believe he deserved the race win.

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how on earth is perez now in 16th?

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i wonder if hamilton or leclerc will make a mistake at the attempt, or a dirty move and cause a double DNF.

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just after I said perez couldn't make the points, he caught kimi so fast. not sure that move was a good one though.

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Sainz certain proved ferrari's pace in the sprint qualifying

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perez has no chance of even getting points. Not that Bottas is having a great season, but you probably have to say that Bottas would be a better team mate for Verstappen than Perez - if perez continues like this.

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if hamilton wins, i am really going to feel sorry for verstappen. Hamilton does not deserve this, even if he manages to pass leclerc.

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hmm. perez on a last stint rush. I feel he may crash if he doesn't keep calm.

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i predict hamilton will do the same on bottas as he did on bottas the year verstappen was leading. Pass him on the last few laps.

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that ferrari seems so good in dirty air. can easily drive closer to the driver ahead for longer than Mercedes can.

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I think ferrari could be up there with mclaren now. they are looking great.

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F1_Ernie wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 18, 2021 3:15 pm
Bottas is so lucky

this race indeed, but luck is not something that is often on Bottas's side. And it isn't like he hasn't had 2 terrible pit stops this year.

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schumilegend wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:55 pm
Penalty is a joke...

I think it is probably the biggest penalty on the first lap in quite some years actually, but given what happened, i would still say it wasn't enough given what happened.

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i hope hamilton understands the damage of his car, and doesn't make a further mistake as a result if he tries to hard.

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BlackMan wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:33 pm
I've punted 20 quid on Bottas to win this one. Let's see how this one will age.

well, bottas hasn't always been great at restarts and norris will probably be pretty quick behind him, and he likely will have a bit of difficulty passing leclerc. But yes, he really should win.

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red bulls message to race control sounded pretty good. Toto's sounded pathetic if I'm honest.

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well channel 4 didn't really hesitate to blame hamilton for this, and they usually really praise him, so i can't really see any reason to defend him, and not getting a pretty big penalty for that will be surprising, though it is the first lap.

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This should be Bottas's race to win now.

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Can coulthard think before he speaks when he says hamilton very rarely gets involved in incidents. The number he's been involved in in the past couple of seasons isn't exactly tiny is it?

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wonder what the result of the latest clash between hamilton and verstappen will be. That to me looked pretty one sided. based on this weekend so far, if russell got a penalty for the sprint race, i can't see how he will get away with this.

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This is a pretty awful year by hamilton's standards.

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something makes me feel perez will easily get the official DOTD.... although it is the uk, so maybe a british driver.

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