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^ This is what confused me about Grosjean's one-race ban in 2012. The stewards would have been perfectly entitled, in my view, to give him this ban on the basis of repeat offences but the reason given, as I recall, was, colliding with championship contenders. It implied that, if he'd taken out the ...

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If the red flag period was extended specifically to allow for cars to be repaired then at what point do we now draw the line? Can it be extended for 5 minutes? 10 minutes? 30 minutes?, and if it was extended for that purpose, the potential for accusations of favoritism & inconsistent application of...

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Out of interest, are there any Dan Ticktum fans here? He's one of the nicest up and comers and always drives respectfully, always has good words for his colleagues. But I never really see much support for him here and wondered why. He has a bit of a history and can still occasionally be outspoken. ...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIypr8j_644 Palmer mentions what i did about Norris turning quite hard to the left on Bottas, which could well itself have caused an incident before the first corner. He also mentioned Gasly who also nearly did cause an incident. There were so many drivers that made ...

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^ This is what confused me about Grosjean's one-race ban in 2012. The stewards would have been perfectly entitled, in my view, to give him this ban on the basis of repeat offences but the reason given, as I recall, was, colliding with championship contenders. It implied that, if he'd taken out the b...

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Didn't make it a walk in the park to pass cars though. And I get the impression that a lot of Ham's race pace today was down to him - his pace was fantastic. Unfortunately no good direct comparisons with Bottas nuking the race for himself and several others and Max driving half a car. I'd say not s...

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Hamilton finished third (which, after Vettel's DSQ, became second) and picked up 15 points, as opposed to the hypothetical scenario which would have been worth 12½ points.
Just sayin'...

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Rules experts help me out here: Radio not allowed on the formation lap, right? Haas got a trip to the naughty step for that last year, so how come everyone knew to pit before the restart and the crews all knew they were coming in? Does the restart formation lap not actually count as a formation lap...

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I just read on Autosport that Hamilton said Alonso's defence was a bit over the limit. I would have to look at the race again, but I can't say I have seen anything that he doesn't do. I find his remarks more and more annoying. Rosberg thoroughly loved the battle between Alonso & Hamilton. We all do...

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Given that the decision not to change to slicks on the restart wasn't Hamilton's he makes a good candidate for DoD. Otherwise, Ocon, Vettel and Sainz all drive really good races. I'm going to plump for Alonso though the race pace was good and his defence on Hamilton was mighty (whilst close to the e...

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How will they race? Rather slowly, it would appear, on today's evidence.

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Out of line by Lewis there. Last time something like this happened in Hungary there was a penalty for the driver who held - ironically - Lewis up and stopped the then-rookie from getting a final lap in. What's the difference here? Lewis was stopped in the pits and couldn't get away. There was absol...

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Good_Year wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:34 pm
Did anyone go faster on final run?

I think Verstappen himself improved - but not enough to squeeze onto the front row.

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IDFD wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:14 pm
Perez in the sim. Albon on track.

Ah - gotcha. Still, as it appears that the majority of drivers did not improve on their second runs, I'd venture that it's rather academic.

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Hamilton reaching new lows today Haha. Lower than going to the stewards pleading with them to ban someone got a race incident? Perez pays the price for Red Bulls immaturity. Maybe they should have been focusing on Hungary with Perez instead of getting him to keep going around Silverstone in the sim...

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Did he break the rules, though? He made a mistake, but I don't think he broke any rules aside from the result of the mistake. I think Hamilton is saying he'd go for the move again given the same chance, and just hope to do it better next time. Fair point. He needs to clean up in that case or he'll ...

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Don't like the sound of this.. Imagine if Verstappen lost a further 25 points due to the crash :? It isn’t something I’d take the risk on personally if there even the tiniest doubt. After the embarrassment of that pathetic attempt of a review, I would laugh my pickle off! 😂 Pathetic attempt at a re...

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News on Verstappen’s engine.. a few bits have been changed as allowed within the regulations. It’ll be run on Friday to check it’s viability as a race engine. Don't like the sound of this.. Imagine if Verstappen lost a further 25 points due to the crash :? It isn’t something I’d take the risk on pe...

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I believe telemetry shows that Hamilton had decreased his speed by 13kph while Max actually increased speed by 2kph so while Hamilton had backed out of it Max still had his foot planted. This is a point that interest me. It's been mentioned that Hamilton went into Copse as fast as he had all race a...

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The primary reason for Kubica being in contention in 2008, for me, was the likes of Hamilton, Massa and Raikkonen falling over themselves and each other. That BMW-Sauber should have been a contender but the team chose not to develop it. Ricciardo's win count in 2014 was three, and all of those were ...

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There hasn't really been any path for Ricciardo to ever find himself into a championship challenging seat. No path to Mercedes, or the 17/18 Ferrari. He could have stayed 8 seasons at Red Bull to finally get a championship capable car, but that is pretty unprecedented to be at a team that long that...

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The last race before the summer break. An important race for a few who still have to be confirmed for next year. Getting a new contract during the summer break would be the target for those. And another very important race for these two who are fighting for Championship. It"s really interesting sit...

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Being that Verstappen was ahead “AND” Hamilton had MORE THAN A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF HIS CAR ALONGSIDE UPON ENTRY TO THE CORNER, it was Verstappen’s responsibility to MAINTAIN his line AND NOT cut across INTO the attacking driver. There isn’t any thy to debate on that front. Every other driver who...

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Going off on a slight tangent, I recall one specific F1 driver having two contract negotiation issues with Williams back in the 00s.

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I've read that Honda have taken Verstappen's engine from Silverstone to check for damage, though they believe that it is OK. This led me to think of an interesting situation though - had the engine been terminally damaged, Verstappen would have to take another, increasing his chances of exceeding th...

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Out of interest if your top 3 are Leclarc, Max, Lewis. Whose the 4th ahead of Norris. I don't really see anyone else you can currently put there. Obviously Alonso is unknown but I don't think he could currently be placed above Norris. Charles still makes too many mistakes for most to consider him a...

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So just asking the question here. Corner speed aside & keeping in mind that at one point Hamilton was virtually level with Verstappen, by how much does this incident differ from Verstappens pass on Leclerc in Austria in 2019? Verstappen was slightly behind going into the corner the same as Hamilton...

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I've voted Hamilton at fault. Whilst he did get his car pretty much alongside Verstappen's on the approach to the corner he made contact due to a touch of understeer. Looking at the bigger picture, he played the percentage game where Verstappen did not. Similar to Barcelona earlier in the year wher...

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I've voted Hamilton at fault. Whilst he did get his car pretty much alongside Verstappen's on the approach to the corner he made contact due to a touch of understeer. Looking at the bigger picture, he played the percentage game where Verstappen did not. Similar to Barcelona earlier in the year where...

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10 sec penalty...

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Going to restart and I see no steward's decision yet...

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Jesus H. Christ fellas, it's a racing incident. You all sound like the Sky sports network numbnuts blasting "BLAME" around instead of accepting the fact that racing is a competitive sport and driver's are only human and therefore "not" always perfect. If there is an accident there is generally a co...

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Not a racing incident. Hamilton had his car more-or-less (but not fully) alongside Verstappen's going into Copse but either should have aimed for the apex or fully committed to staying alongside. I'd expect a penalty for Hamilton - just a question of which? On the other hand - is this a message stat...

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Russell has just gone full Vettel: 'Yes, boys..!'

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pokerman wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:44 pm

Tufty wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:27 pm
I'm starting to see why some are wondering if Lewis will even achieve 100 wins this year. Surely luck will give him a couple but I can't see him earning any outright in a straight battle.
A bit of rain would not go amiss.

Forecast checked. Optimism mode (on your behalf at least!) disabled.

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https://www.racefans.net/2021/07/14/is-sprint-qualifying-here-to-stay-15-questions-answered-on-f1s-new-saturday-races/ Should the title of this thread be changed? :D This apparently is not a race and shouldn't be called one! So points are now being awarded for qualifying. x( Then I propose to call ...

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TheGiantHogweed wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:06 pm
https://www.racefans.net/2021/07/14/is- ... day-races/

Should the title of this thread be changed? This apparently is not a race and shouldn't be called one!

So points are now being awarded for qualifying.

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We could bleat on all day about which car is better but - setting aside Austria which happens to favour RB over Merc - they've been pretty close overall so far. Focusing on the driver errors, I'd say that Hamilton has had the more high-profile ones with what I'd call a bit of impatience in Imola (a...

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Ocon hasn't suddenly become a bad driver. In a similar vein, I don't think that McLaren made a mistake in signing Ricciardo. Question is - was he ever that good in the first place? Certainly not to be on a 3 year contract, I would think - especially when the likes of Gasly might soon be available. ...

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Ocon hasn't suddenly become a bad driver. In a similar vein, I don't think that McLaren made a mistake in signing Ricciardo.

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