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Alonso's car looks terrible after his first qualifying attempt, it's looking like he's going to not get into the race?

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Apparently he had a slow rear puncture so his later run should be better if track conditions allow for it?

Now they've stopped qualifying to see if there's anything on the track that caused his puncture?

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Yeah that looked scary bad, apparently picked up a puncture too. I didn't know he binned it earlier in the week until I tuned in for Quali, I've been snowed under for the best part of 3 weeks and missed a lot lol. Didn't even get to watch the Baku race until a few days before the Spanish one and I've not watched Spain yet, that's how bad its been so if I've missed any replies apologies as I don't have notifications on.

Anyway the chassis/set up looks awful here for Macca, I guess we're seeing how tough it actually is for a new team and how much Andretti helped the last time. Engine actually looks the better of the two right now so no excuses from that angle. Looks like they'll struggle to make the race.

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Yeah that looked scary bad, apparently picked up a puncture too. I didn't know he binned it earlier in the week until I tuned in for Quali, I've been snowed under for the best part of 3 weeks and missed a lot lol. Didn't even get to watch the Chinese GP until a few days before the Spanish one and I've not watched Spain yet, that's how bad its been so if I've missed any replies apologies as I don't have notifications on.

Anyway the chassis/set up looks awful here for Macca, I guess we're seeing how tough it actually is for a new team and how much Andretti helped the last time. Engine actually looks the better of the two right now so no excuses from that angle. Looks like they'll struggle to make the race.

I'm just wondering what part of the world are you living in to have bad snow, southern hemisphere, New Zealand?

I read someone opinion that Alonso is basically in a tier 4 car, his first battle is to get into the race, beyond that winning the race is unlikely but you never know because the race can sometimes be a lottery?

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Yeah that looked scary bad, apparently picked up a puncture too. I didn't know he binned it earlier in the week until I tuned in for Quali, I've been snowed under for the best part of 3 weeks and missed a lot lol. Didn't even get to watch the Chinese GP until a few days before the Spanish one and I've not watched Spain yet, that's how bad its been so if I've missed any replies apologies as I don't have notifications on.

Anyway the chassis/set up looks awful here for Macca, I guess we're seeing how tough it actually is for a new team and how much Andretti helped the last time. Engine actually looks the better of the two right now so no excuses from that angle. Looks like they'll struggle to make the race.

I'm just wondering what part of the world are you living in to have bad snow, southern hemisphere, New Zealand?

I read someone opinion that Alonso is basically in a tier 4 car, his first battle is to get into the race, beyond that winning the race is unlikely but you never know because the race can sometimes be a lottery?


I just meant snowed under as in really busy bro, I'm in SW Scotland though so it has happened in the past but not in May. Yet.

No chance of a win, the chassis's a turd, I honestly don't think they'll even qualify at this point but the puncture might be making a bad situation seem worse I guess and we'll see later in the other runs if they can recover.

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Yeah that looked scary bad, apparently picked up a puncture too. I didn't know he binned it earlier in the week until I tuned in for Quali, I've been snowed under for the best part of 3 weeks and missed a lot lol. Didn't even get to watch the Chinese GP until a few days before the Spanish one and I've not watched Spain yet, that's how bad its been so if I've missed any replies apologies as I don't have notifications on.

Anyway the chassis/set up looks awful here for Macca, I guess we're seeing how tough it actually is for a new team and how much Andretti helped the last time. Engine actually looks the better of the two right now so no excuses from that angle. Looks like they'll struggle to make the race.

I'm just wondering what part of the world are you living in to have bad snow, southern hemisphere, New Zealand?

I read someone opinion that Alonso is basically in a tier 4 car, his first battle is to get into the race, beyond that winning the race is unlikely but you never know because the race can sometimes be a lottery?


I just meant snowed under as in really busy bro, I'm in SW Scotland though so it has happened in the past but not in May. Yet.

No chance of a win, the chassis's a turd, I honestly don't think they'll even qualify at this point but the puncture might be making a bad situation seem worse I guess and we'll see later in the other runs if they can recover.

That makes more sense. :lol:

I see why you would be a fan of Jim Clark plus the username. :)

It might be fair to say that Alonso is a true rookie this year and the path to Indy500 success that he's taking might be a longer one that he might have envisaged?

I wonder given his situation whether he might consider doing a full Indycar season thus getting the team he's running with more up to speed by the time of Indy?

Big crash by Hinchcliffe that might put him out of qualifying which would help Alonso?

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Outstanding lap by Herta why did Red Bull prefer to go for O'Ward?

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I've been dropping in and out, currently showing Alonso on 224 but when I tuned in earlier I could have sworn he was 30th with a 227 run, what happened?


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It might be fair to say that Alonso is a true rookie this year and the path to Indy500 success that he's taking might be a longer one that he might have envisaged?

I wonder given his situation whether he might consider doing a full Indycar season thus getting the team he's running with more up to speed by the time of Indy?

Big crash by Hinchcliffe that might put him out of qualifying which would help Alonso?


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I am confused, poker. How can it possibly be fair to say that he is a rookie?

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Well, it looks like Alonso is going to be going through Bump Day. As a McLaren fan, it's a bit painful seeing how awful that car looks from all the onboards. x(

Pole looks like a shootout between Penske and the Ed Carpenter cars.

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Freddy has been bumped into last row qualifying tomorrow by being slower than Pippa Mann!! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Indy500
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pokerman wrote:
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Yeah that looked scary bad, apparently picked up a puncture too. I didn't know he binned it earlier in the week until I tuned in for Quali, I've been snowed under for the best part of 3 weeks and missed a lot lol. Didn't even get to watch the Chinese GP until a few days before the Spanish one and I've not watched Spain yet, that's how bad its been so if I've missed any replies apologies as I don't have notifications on.

Anyway the chassis/set up looks awful here for Macca, I guess we're seeing how tough it actually is for a new team and how much Andretti helped the last time. Engine actually looks the better of the two right now so no excuses from that angle. Looks like they'll struggle to make the race.

I'm just wondering what part of the world are you living in to have bad snow, southern hemisphere, New Zealand?

I read someone opinion that Alonso is basically in a tier 4 car, his first battle is to get into the race, beyond that winning the race is unlikely but you never know because the race can sometimes be a lottery?


I just meant snowed under as in really busy bro, I'm in SW Scotland though so it has happened in the past but not in May. Yet.

No chance of a win, the chassis's a turd, I honestly don't think they'll even qualify at this point but the puncture might be making a bad situation seem worse I guess and we'll see later in the other runs if they can recover.

That makes more sense. :lol:

I see why you would be a fan of Jim Clark plus the username. :)

It might be fair to say that Alonso is a true rookie this year and the path to Indy500 success that he's taking might be a longer one that he might have envisaged?

I wonder given his situation whether he might consider doing a full Indycar season thus getting the team he's running with more up to speed by the time of Indy?

Big crash by Hinchcliffe that might put him out of qualifying which would help Alonso?


Yeah I like a few of the "Borders" drivers, we've been spoiled a bit over the years with DC,McNish,Leslie and the best of all and my fave yeah, Clark. I've likely forgotten some as well as I'm sure I saw a list once that had at least half a dozen known names from the Borders but I'm having a brain freeze.

I was hoping they'd do a full season this year but not to be. I'd love a full programme next year now he's going to be clear of his WEC commitments and I think judging by this showing McLaren and him probably need the experience. Or he has to go alone which I don't personally want tbh.

They'll be lucky to make the race tbh, he's with some experienced names and teams down there, Hinch will be quickest I think so it'll be tough with just two spots available really but we'll see.

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Bit naive of McLaren to enter a discipline they don't know and expect to be at the sharp end, surely?

Partnering with Andretti racing two years ago made far more sense.


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Blake wrote:
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It might be fair to say that Alonso is a true rookie this year and the path to Indy500 success that he's taking might be a longer one that he might have envisaged?

I wonder given his situation whether he might consider doing a full Indycar season thus getting the team he's running with more up to speed by the time of Indy?

Big crash by Hinchcliffe that might put him out of qualifying which would help Alonso?


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I am confused, poker. How can it possibly be fair to say that he is a rookie?

I mean the situation he finds himself in whereas before everything was done for him in regards to car set up.

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Freddy has been bumped into last row qualifying tomorrow by being slower than Pipa Mann!! :lol:

Yep the girl from Ipswitch or is that really Ipswich? :)

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I've been dropping in and out, currently showing Alonso on 224 but when I tuned in earlier I could have sworn he was 30th with a 227 run, what happened?

It's quite complicated but basically in Alonso's situation he has to sacrifice his lap time in order to try for another lap time.

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Bit naive of McLaren to enter a discipline they don't know and expect to be at the sharp end, surely?

Partnering with Andretti racing two years ago made far more sense.

I don't believe that was on the cards this time because of Honda, otherwise I believe that would have been their preference?

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Freddy has been bumped into last row qualifying tomorrow by being slower than Pipa Mann!! :lol:

Yep the girl from Ipswitch or is that really Ipswich? :)


Found this on the 'net.
The 33-year-old grew up near Leiston and fell in love with racing when attending a birthday party at an Ipswich indoor karting track at the age of 13.
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/suffolk-s- ... -1-5037900

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Freddy has been bumped into last row qualifying tomorrow by being slower than Pipa Mann!! :lol:

Yep the girl from Ipswitch or is that really Ipswich? :)


Found this on the 'net.
The 33-year-old grew up near Leiston and fell in love with racing when attending a birthday party at an Ipswich indoor karting track at the age of 13.
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/suffolk-s- ... -1-5037900

Good find, Wikipedia just has her down as being born in London, she raced single seaters in Europe with no results before racing in the States were she had success in Indy Lights before racing in Indycars doing the odd race now and again.

Ipswich is pronounced as Ipswitch so maybe that's why it got spelt that way?

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It might be fair to say that Alonso is a true rookie this year and the path to Indy500 success that he's taking might be a longer one that he might have envisaged?

I wonder given his situation whether he might consider doing a full Indycar season thus getting the team he's running with more up to speed by the time of Indy?

Big crash by Hinchcliffe that might put him out of qualifying which would help Alonso?


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I am confused, poker. How can it possibly be fair to say that he is a rookie?

I mean the situation he finds himself in whereas before everything was done for him in regards to car set up.


Thanks for the explanation, poker, I was at a loss trying to figure it out. You are right in that he will have to shoulder more of the load.
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I think Alonso will still sneak on to the final row. But only just. This year is proving to be a harsh lesson.

Deep down I wish he would just cut ties with McLaren. Andretti would snap him up in a heartbeat. But who knows - McLaren have been talking about doing F1, Indy and WEC. So maybe Alonso knows he always has a seat and can jump between whichever discipline he likes as long as he stays with them

Anyway, there's more to Indy than Alonso. Up at the front I think Rossi is looking mega

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I think Alonso will still sneak on to the final row. But only just. This year is proving to be a harsh lesson.

Deep down I wish he would just cut ties with McLaren. Andretti would snap him up in a heartbeat. But who knows - McLaren have been talking about doing F1, Indy and WEC. So maybe Alonso knows he always has a seat and can jump between whichever discipline he likes as long as he stays with them

Anyway, there's more to Indy than Alonso. Up at the front I think Rossi is looking mega

I'm liking Herta to take a shock pole tomorrow. But somehow, I feel like it's going to be Ed Carpenter again. Rossi in the race, though, is a force to be reckoned with. As is Dixon, no matter where he qualifies.

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So bummed I can't watch any of this in my area. Sounds like Alonso is going to disappoint.


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Blake wrote:
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It might be fair to say that Alonso is a true rookie this year and the path to Indy500 success that he's taking might be a longer one that he might have envisaged?

I wonder given his situation whether he might consider doing a full Indycar season thus getting the team he's running with more up to speed by the time of Indy?

Big crash by Hinchcliffe that might put him out of qualifying which would help Alonso?


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I am confused, poker. How can it possibly be fair to say that he is a rookie?

I mean the situation he finds himself in whereas before everything was done for him in regards to car set up.


Thanks for the explanation, poker, I was at a loss trying to figure it out. You are right in that he will have to shoulder more of the load.
:nod:

Yeah and I'm wondering if they need to re-evaluate their approach, if they can't run under the umbrella of a top team for the Indy500 then maybe they need to compete in Indycars full time in order to get up to speed?

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I think Alonso will still sneak on to the final row. But only just. This year is proving to be a harsh lesson.

Deep down I wish he would just cut ties with McLaren. Andretti would snap him up in a heartbeat. But who knows - McLaren have been talking about doing F1, Indy and WEC. So maybe Alonso knows he always has a seat and can jump between whichever discipline he likes as long as he stays with them

Anyway, there's more to Indy than Alonso. Up at the front I think Rossi is looking mega

Yeah he was yo yoing in and out of qualification so I would be guessing that he will end up on the back row.

If you think Rossi is looking mega then what about his rookie teammate Herta?

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I think Alonso will still sneak on to the final row. But only just. This year is proving to be a harsh lesson.

Deep down I wish he would just cut ties with McLaren. Andretti would snap him up in a heartbeat. But who knows - McLaren have been talking about doing F1, Indy and WEC. So maybe Alonso knows he always has a seat and can jump between whichever discipline he likes as long as he stays with them

Anyway, there's more to Indy than Alonso. Up at the front I think Rossi is looking mega

Yeah he was yo yoing in and out of qualification so I would be guessing that he will end up on the back row.

If you think Rossi is looking mega then what about his rookie teammate Herta?

Yeah an amazing performance from a rookie :thumbup:

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Fernando is under a lot of pressure today, it's bump day only 3 of the 6 cars taking part qualify. If McLaren hadn't broken their ties with Honda they could and should have renewed their partnership with Andretti.

I thought I heard that if McLaren had declared the puncture earlier they might have been given another run at the qualifying for the fast 9 but the car is 6 mph off the pace. Which means in Indycar is a lot.


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Fernando is under a lot of pressure today, it's bump day only 3 of the 6 cars taking part qualify. If McLaren hadn't broken their ties with Honda they could and should have renewed their partnership with Andretti.

I thought I heard that if McLaren had declared the puncture earlier they might have been given another run at the qualifying for the fast 9 but the car is 6 mph off the pace. Which means in Indycar is a lot.

If not for the break up with Honda I'm pretty sure they would have linked up with Andretti again?

Alonso had 5 tries at qualifying so I'm not sure what difference it makes by declaring the puncture too late?

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Judging from the weather there will be no running today, that will make it even more interesting. If Alonso really wants to win Indy, he needs to call Roger Penske, the Andretti's do not have a very good track record at the Brickyard, something about a curse and all that.


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Now that Honda is no longer in the picture, winning Indy as a one-off will be near impossible. He will have to get serious about entering the series if he wants to become a favorite in that race. It will be possible if he is willing to commit. I think any team would be happy to have him.


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Judging from the weather there will be no running today, that will make it even more interesting. If Alonso really wants to win Indy, he needs to call Roger Penske, the Andretti's do not have a very good track record at the Brickyard, something about a curse and all that.

Sato won the 2017 Indy500 with Andretti, apparently they've looked to get advice from another Chevvy team which they tried in practice but it didn't work out.

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Hinch lays down a marker at 227.543. 5 guys will be trying to best it.

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 Post subject: Re: Indy500
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Max Chilton at 226.1992.
Fernando is on track.

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Freddy at 227.353. May be good enough. Three drivers to go.

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 Post subject: Re: Indy500
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Good stuff from Alonso, looks like he might make it.


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 Post subject: Re: Indy500
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Black_Flag_11 wrote:
Good stuff from Alonso, looks like he might make it.

Chilton is out. Fernando is on the bubble.
One of the two remaining drivers beats him and he goes home.

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Alonso may be in at 33rd. I don't see Kaiser bumping him. Although....


Edit: Freddy goes home empty handed due to Kyle Kaiser. 8O

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 Post subject: Re: Indy500
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Damn it, that was close.


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 Post subject: Re: Indy500
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They had help from both Andretti and Penske for today but still didn't qualify, speechless.

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Herta top Honda driver in 5th, apparently Alonso is looking to buy his way into the race if anyone is prepared to give up their slot?

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