Indy500
Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 4:39 pm
Alonso's car looks terrible after his first qualifying attempt, it's looking like he's going to not get into the race?
I'm just wondering what part of the world are you living in to have bad snow, southern hemisphere, New Zealand?Lotus49 wrote:Yeah that looked scary bad, apparently picked up a puncture too. I didn't know he binned it earlier in the week until I tuned in for Quali, I've been snowed under for the best part of 3 weeks and missed a lot lol. Didn't even get to watch the Chinese GP until a few days before the Spanish one and I've not watched Spain yet, that's how bad its been so if I've missed any replies apologies as I don't have notifications on.
Anyway the chassis/set up looks awful here for Macca, I guess we're seeing how tough it actually is for a new team and how much Andretti helped the last time. Engine actually looks the better of the two right now so no excuses from that angle. Looks like they'll struggle to make the race.
I just meant snowed under as in really busy bro, I'm in SW Scotland though so it has happened in the past but not in May. Yet.pokerman wrote:I'm just wondering what part of the world are you living in to have bad snow, southern hemisphere, New Zealand?Lotus49 wrote:Yeah that looked scary bad, apparently picked up a puncture too. I didn't know he binned it earlier in the week until I tuned in for Quali, I've been snowed under for the best part of 3 weeks and missed a lot lol. Didn't even get to watch the Chinese GP until a few days before the Spanish one and I've not watched Spain yet, that's how bad its been so if I've missed any replies apologies as I don't have notifications on.
Anyway the chassis/set up looks awful here for Macca, I guess we're seeing how tough it actually is for a new team and how much Andretti helped the last time. Engine actually looks the better of the two right now so no excuses from that angle. Looks like they'll struggle to make the race.
I read someone opinion that Alonso is basically in a tier 4 car, his first battle is to get into the race, beyond that winning the race is unlikely but you never know because the race can sometimes be a lottery?
That makes more sense.Lotus49 wrote:I just meant snowed under as in really busy bro, I'm in SW Scotland though so it has happened in the past but not in May. Yet.pokerman wrote:I'm just wondering what part of the world are you living in to have bad snow, southern hemisphere, New Zealand?Lotus49 wrote:Yeah that looked scary bad, apparently picked up a puncture too. I didn't know he binned it earlier in the week until I tuned in for Quali, I've been snowed under for the best part of 3 weeks and missed a lot lol. Didn't even get to watch the Chinese GP until a few days before the Spanish one and I've not watched Spain yet, that's how bad its been so if I've missed any replies apologies as I don't have notifications on.
Anyway the chassis/set up looks awful here for Macca, I guess we're seeing how tough it actually is for a new team and how much Andretti helped the last time. Engine actually looks the better of the two right now so no excuses from that angle. Looks like they'll struggle to make the race.
I read someone opinion that Alonso is basically in a tier 4 car, his first battle is to get into the race, beyond that winning the race is unlikely but you never know because the race can sometimes be a lottery?
No chance of a win, the chassis's a turd, I honestly don't think they'll even qualify at this point but the puncture might be making a bad situation seem worse I guess and we'll see later in the other runs if they can recover.
???pokerman wrote: It might be fair to say that Alonso is a true rookie this year and the path to Indy500 success that he's taking might be a longer one that he might have envisaged?
I wonder given his situation whether he might consider doing a full Indycar season thus getting the team he's running with more up to speed by the time of Indy?
Big crash by Hinchcliffe that might put him out of qualifying which would help Alonso?
Yeah I like a few of the "Borders" drivers, we've been spoiled a bit over the years with DC,McNish,Leslie and the best of all and my fave yeah, Clark. I've likely forgotten some as well as I'm sure I saw a list once that had at least half a dozen known names from the Borders but I'm having a brain freeze.pokerman wrote:That makes more sense.Lotus49 wrote:I just meant snowed under as in really busy bro, I'm in SW Scotland though so it has happened in the past but not in May. Yet.pokerman wrote:I'm just wondering what part of the world are you living in to have bad snow, southern hemisphere, New Zealand?Lotus49 wrote:Yeah that looked scary bad, apparently picked up a puncture too. I didn't know he binned it earlier in the week until I tuned in for Quali, I've been snowed under for the best part of 3 weeks and missed a lot lol. Didn't even get to watch the Chinese GP until a few days before the Spanish one and I've not watched Spain yet, that's how bad its been so if I've missed any replies apologies as I don't have notifications on.
Anyway the chassis/set up looks awful here for Macca, I guess we're seeing how tough it actually is for a new team and how much Andretti helped the last time. Engine actually looks the better of the two right now so no excuses from that angle. Looks like they'll struggle to make the race.
I read someone opinion that Alonso is basically in a tier 4 car, his first battle is to get into the race, beyond that winning the race is unlikely but you never know because the race can sometimes be a lottery?
No chance of a win, the chassis's a turd, I honestly don't think they'll even qualify at this point but the puncture might be making a bad situation seem worse I guess and we'll see later in the other runs if they can recover.
I see why you would be a fan of Jim Clark plus the username.
It might be fair to say that Alonso is a true rookie this year and the path to Indy500 success that he's taking might be a longer one that he might have envisaged?
I wonder given his situation whether he might consider doing a full Indycar season thus getting the team he's running with more up to speed by the time of Indy?
Big crash by Hinchcliffe that might put him out of qualifying which would help Alonso?
I mean the situation he finds himself in whereas before everything was done for him in regards to car set up.Blake wrote:???pokerman wrote: It might be fair to say that Alonso is a true rookie this year and the path to Indy500 success that he's taking might be a longer one that he might have envisaged?
I wonder given his situation whether he might consider doing a full Indycar season thus getting the team he's running with more up to speed by the time of Indy?
Big crash by Hinchcliffe that might put him out of qualifying which would help Alonso?
I am confused, poker. How can it possibly be fair to say that he is a rookie?
Yep the girl from Ipswitch or is that really Ipswich?Mort Canard wrote:Freddy has been bumped into last row qualifying tomorrow by being slower than Pipa Mann!!
It's quite complicated but basically in Alonso's situation he has to sacrifice his lap time in order to try for another lap time.Black_Flag_11 wrote:I've been dropping in and out, currently showing Alonso on 224 but when I tuned in earlier I could have sworn he was 30th with a 227 run, what happened?
I don't believe that was on the cards this time because of Honda, otherwise I believe that would have been their preference?Colinjb wrote:Bit naive of McLaren to enter a discipline they don't know and expect to be at the sharp end, surely?
Partnering with Andretti racing two years ago made far more sense.
Found this on the 'net.pokerman wrote:Yep the girl from Ipswitch or is that really Ipswich?Mort Canard wrote:Freddy has been bumped into last row qualifying tomorrow by being slower than Pipa Mann!!
Good find, Wikipedia just has her down as being born in London, she raced single seaters in Europe with no results before racing in the States were she had success in Indy Lights before racing in Indycars doing the odd race now and again.Mort Canard wrote:Found this on the 'net.pokerman wrote:Yep the girl from Ipswitch or is that really Ipswich?Mort Canard wrote:Freddy has been bumped into last row qualifying tomorrow by being slower than Pipa Mann!!
The 33-year-old grew up near Leiston and fell in love with racing when attending a birthday party at an Ipswich indoor karting track at the age of 13.
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/suffolk-s- ... -1-5037900
Thanks for the explanation, poker, I was at a loss trying to figure it out. You are right in that he will have to shoulder more of the load.pokerman wrote:I mean the situation he finds himself in whereas before everything was done for him in regards to car set up.Blake wrote:???pokerman wrote: It might be fair to say that Alonso is a true rookie this year and the path to Indy500 success that he's taking might be a longer one that he might have envisaged?
I wonder given his situation whether he might consider doing a full Indycar season thus getting the team he's running with more up to speed by the time of Indy?
Big crash by Hinchcliffe that might put him out of qualifying which would help Alonso?
I am confused, poker. How can it possibly be fair to say that he is a rookie?
I'm liking Herta to take a shock pole tomorrow. But somehow, I feel like it's going to be Ed Carpenter again. Rossi in the race, though, is a force to be reckoned with. As is Dixon, no matter where he qualifies.mcdo wrote:I think Alonso will still sneak on to the final row. But only just. This year is proving to be a harsh lesson.
Deep down I wish he would just cut ties with McLaren. Andretti would snap him up in a heartbeat. But who knows - McLaren have been talking about doing F1, Indy and WEC. So maybe Alonso knows he always has a seat and can jump between whichever discipline he likes as long as he stays with them
Anyway, there's more to Indy than Alonso. Up at the front I think Rossi is looking mega
Yeah and I'm wondering if they need to re-evaluate their approach, if they can't run under the umbrella of a top team for the Indy500 then maybe they need to compete in Indycars full time in order to get up to speed?Blake wrote:Thanks for the explanation, poker, I was at a loss trying to figure it out. You are right in that he will have to shoulder more of the load.pokerman wrote:I mean the situation he finds himself in whereas before everything was done for him in regards to car set up.Blake wrote:???pokerman wrote: It might be fair to say that Alonso is a true rookie this year and the path to Indy500 success that he's taking might be a longer one that he might have envisaged?
I wonder given his situation whether he might consider doing a full Indycar season thus getting the team he's running with more up to speed by the time of Indy?
Big crash by Hinchcliffe that might put him out of qualifying which would help Alonso?
I am confused, poker. How can it possibly be fair to say that he is a rookie?
Yeah he was yo yoing in and out of qualification so I would be guessing that he will end up on the back row.mcdo wrote:I think Alonso will still sneak on to the final row. But only just. This year is proving to be a harsh lesson.
Deep down I wish he would just cut ties with McLaren. Andretti would snap him up in a heartbeat. But who knows - McLaren have been talking about doing F1, Indy and WEC. So maybe Alonso knows he always has a seat and can jump between whichever discipline he likes as long as he stays with them
Anyway, there's more to Indy than Alonso. Up at the front I think Rossi is looking mega
Yeah an amazing performance from a rookiepokerman wrote:Yeah he was yo yoing in and out of qualification so I would be guessing that he will end up on the back row.mcdo wrote:I think Alonso will still sneak on to the final row. But only just. This year is proving to be a harsh lesson.
Deep down I wish he would just cut ties with McLaren. Andretti would snap him up in a heartbeat. But who knows - McLaren have been talking about doing F1, Indy and WEC. So maybe Alonso knows he always has a seat and can jump between whichever discipline he likes as long as he stays with them
Anyway, there's more to Indy than Alonso. Up at the front I think Rossi is looking mega
If you think Rossi is looking mega then what about his rookie teammate Herta?
If not for the break up with Honda I'm pretty sure they would have linked up with Andretti again?paulsf1fix wrote:Fernando is under a lot of pressure today, it's bump day only 3 of the 6 cars taking part qualify. If McLaren hadn't broken their ties with Honda they could and should have renewed their partnership with Andretti.
I thought I heard that if McLaren had declared the puncture earlier they might have been given another run at the qualifying for the fast 9 but the car is 6 mph off the pace. Which means in Indycar is a lot.
Sato won the 2017 Indy500 with Andretti, apparently they've looked to get advice from another Chevvy team which they tried in practice but it didn't work out.ShaneM wrote:Judging from the weather there will be no running today, that will make it even more interesting. If Alonso really wants to win Indy, he needs to call Roger Penske, the Andretti's do not have a very good track record at the Brickyard, something about a curse and all that.
Chilton is out. Fernando is on the bubble.Black_Flag_11 wrote:Good stuff from Alonso, looks like he might make it.