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Re: Your Views on Refuelling During Races

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:06 pm
by pokerman
mikeyg123 wrote:
pokerman wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
pokerman wrote: I just get confused we want the manufacturers to have the chance to catch up so ideally we want things to be close but then introduce new rules that will surely induce performance gaps and this in the midst of engine convergence.
If the goal is really engine convergence then just standardise the engines and save everyone a great deal of time and money.
No I think the manufacturers want to develop their technologies, convergence becomes a natural thing that happens with stable regulations, convergence doesn't necessarily mean the engines are identical.

After years of listening to unhappy posts about engine inequality I guess I wasn't expecting to read a post that kind of welcomes it?
You honestly didn't think people would have a difference of opinion?
Of course but I'm still surprised at the keenness to have such a new engine formula that will probably trigger a hew era of engine domination so soon after the last one, what if Mercedes were to lead the way again, there are people already on suicide watch. :)

Re: Your Views on Refuelling During Races

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:28 am
by mikeyg123
pokerman wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
pokerman wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
pokerman wrote: I just get confused we want the manufacturers to have the chance to catch up so ideally we want things to be close but then introduce new rules that will surely induce performance gaps and this in the midst of engine convergence.
If the goal is really engine convergence then just standardise the engines and save everyone a great deal of time and money.
No I think the manufacturers want to develop their technologies, convergence becomes a natural thing that happens with stable regulations, convergence doesn't necessarily mean the engines are identical.

After years of listening to unhappy posts about engine inequality I guess I wasn't expecting to read a post that kind of welcomes it?
You honestly didn't think people would have a difference of opinion?
Of course but I'm still surprised at the keenness to have such a new engine formula that will probably trigger a hew era of engine domination so soon after the last one, what if Mercedes were to lead the way again, there are people already on suicide watch. :)
It depends what the benefits were. We had these issues in 2014 anyway without getting the benefits and excitement of manufactuers being able to develop their own tech.

Re: Your Views on Refuelling During Races

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:48 pm
by pokerman
mikeyg123 wrote:
pokerman wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
pokerman wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote: If the goal is really engine convergence then just standardise the engines and save everyone a great deal of time and money.
No I think the manufacturers want to develop their technologies, convergence becomes a natural thing that happens with stable regulations, convergence doesn't necessarily mean the engines are identical.

After years of listening to unhappy posts about engine inequality I guess I wasn't expecting to read a post that kind of welcomes it?
You honestly didn't think people would have a difference of opinion?
Of course but I'm still surprised at the keenness to have such a new engine formula that will probably trigger a hew era of engine domination so soon after the last one, what if Mercedes were to lead the way again, there are people already on suicide watch. :)
It depends what the benefits were. We had these issues in 2014 anyway without getting the benefits and excitement of manufactuers being able to develop their own tech.
We had those issues in 2014 so why risk having those same issues again?

Re: Your Views on Refuelling During Races

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:53 pm
by mikeyg123
pokerman wrote: We had those issues in 2014 so why risk having those same issues again?
For the massive benefits it could bring.

Re: Your Views on Refuelling During Races

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:14 pm
by pokerman
mikeyg123 wrote:
pokerman wrote: We had those issues in 2014 so why risk having those same issues again?
For the massive benefits it could bring.
Pray tell? :)

Re: Your Views on Refuelling During Races

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:19 pm
by mikeyg123
pokerman wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
pokerman wrote: We had those issues in 2014 so why risk having those same issues again?
For the massive benefits it could bring.
Pray tell? :)
More manufacturers to the table, Interest in different concepts being used and having application in the real world. The 2014 engine regs were so frustrating because they locked in the advantage Merc had and were so complicated and restricted new manufacturers didn't want to come in and have a go. Basically unless you were Mercedes you may as well not bother.

If teams could do what they like then yes someone may come up with a great idea but at least it could be superseded.